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Trains to Busan.. slow vs. fast

 
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freebeerandchicken



Joined: 02 May 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 6:03 pm    Post subject: Trains to Busan.. slow vs. fast Reply with quote

How long does the slow train from Seoul to Busan take? I believe its called the Mugungwha (??). Also is there much difference in price between this train and the KTX? Should I book a spot in advance? Where does it leave from? When does the latest train leave (for the slow train)?

I am thinking about taking the slow train down to Busan on a Friday night, as I work til 8pm on Fridays.. Then on Saturday late afternoon taking the ferry to Fukuoka for a few days.

Another question... If I were to take the slow train Seoul-Busan one way, and the KTX from Busan-Seoul one way on the way back, am I going to be paying more than I would buying a round-trip? (IE are return ticket prices the equivalent of 2 one way tickets?)

Thanks for any info you may possibly have.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the ktx bullet train is relatively CHEAP

but i've wondered how different it would be to take the other rail

if you're going to take the 3-hour hydrofoil to Japan afterwards, I recommend the ktx... unless you enjoy the travelling more than the arriving and have the extra time
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Ekuboko



Joined: 22 Dec 2004
Location: ex-Gyeonggi

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How long does the slow train from Seoul to Busan take? I believe its called the Mugungwha (??).

Mugunghwa (slowest) costs W24800 and takes about 5 hours 20 minutes.
Saemaul (the fastest before KTX came along) costs W36800 and takes about 4 hours 30 minutes.
KTX costs W44800 and takes about 2 hours 40 minutes.

Actually the Saemaul is more comfortable than the KTX (more leg room).


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Should I book a spot in advance? Where does it leave from?

On a Friday night, it may be best to book in advance. Trains to Busan leave from Seoul Station. If you are on the southern side of the Han River, you can get on at Yeongdeungpo Station. You can book/buy train tickets from any train (not subway) station, i.e. you do not have to go to the station you want to depart from.

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When does the latest train leave (for the slow train)?

There are slow trains leaving at 9.25, 9.35 and 11pm.
You can find information for yourself at http://english.barota.com

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Another question... If I were to take the slow train Seoul-Busan one way, and the KTX from Busan-Seoul one way on the way back, am I going to be paying more than I would buying a round-trip? (IE are return ticket prices the equivalent of 2 one way tickets?)

You buy two one-way tickets. There is no discount for return trip tickets.
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freebeerandchicken



Joined: 02 May 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 3:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the helpful info!

My rough plan is to take the slow train on Friday night and then spend Saturday in Busan, checking out the beach and a bit of the town. I've never been there so I thought it might be worth it, even for a few good hours on the beach. Then I hope to catch the last ferry to Fukuoka on Saturday, which is at 3:30pm or somethin like that. I'm not doing a visa run so it doesn't matter much when I get to Fukuoka.
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mindmetoo



Joined: 02 Feb 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Saemaul has more leg room but the one I rode I wasn't really impressed. It was kind of run down inside. If you're not watching every dime, KTX first class is not out of reach. Lots of leg room. Although it doesn't match the shinkansen midori class.

(Photo account is working crappy. Photos may or may not show up.)

KTX First Class:




Saemaul





Midori Shinkansen

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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 2:24 am    Post subject: yes Reply with quote

Do not ever take the Mugunghwa train all that way unless

a) you are travelling overnight

b) you can sleep through a nuclear war.

They sell 입석 tickets, meaning, a standing seat ticket. The hallways will be crowded with people who surely make the seated customers feel uncomfortable. They have no limit to how many they will sell, to my knowledge. I have seen the hallway so crowded, it took 10 minutes to get to the bathroom.

Then u have a grandmother/father who buys a standing seat, and stands next to you or someone until some poor sap who paid for a seat stands up and gives him/her the seat. Pathetic crap, really.

I would not take the Mugunghwa train any further than Daejeon.
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freebeerandchicken



Joined: 02 May 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:46 pm    Post subject: Re: yes Reply with quote

Ilsanman wrote:
Do not ever take the Mugunghwa train all that way unless

a) you are travelling overnight

b) you can sleep through a nuclear war.

They sell 입석 tickets, meaning, a standing seat ticket. The hallways will be crowded with people who surely make the seated customers feel uncomfortable. They have no limit to how many they will sell, to my knowledge. I have seen the hallway so crowded, it took 10 minutes to get to the bathroom.

Then u have a grandmother/father who buys a standing seat, and stands next to you or someone until some poor sap who paid for a seat stands up and gives him/her the seat. Pathetic crap, really.

I would not take the Mugunghwa train any further than Daejeon.




Interesting! And good to know. I would be taking the overnight train, so maybe the crowds wouldn't be as much of an issue.
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Ekuboko



Joined: 22 Dec 2004
Location: ex-Gyeonggi

PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would be taking the overnight train, so maybe the crowds wouldn't be as much of an issue.

You might have an issue with the mass consumption of dried squid though. Wink
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