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cubanlord



Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 4:10 pm    Post subject: Can it be that Korea is finally moving towards a positive... Reply with quote

view on foreigners? If the new policy (explained in a sec.) is passed, foreigners (we teachers) can look at the following changes (those with an E-2):

-Upon contract ending, your 14day stay before you are required to leave will increase to 90 day. This allots us a lot of time to wrap up loose ends, whether it be with bad closures and lack of final payments or with just getting situated in another country.

-E-2 Visa to be extended from a 1 year to a 3 year period.

Unbelievable that all it took was a mixed race Korean to become internationally recognized for Korea to finally change its' foreign policy.
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flotsam



Joined: 28 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm..medoubts a Hines Ward connection.

Can you post where you read about this? Otherwise it's hearsay.
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Can it be that Korea is finally moving towards a positiv Reply with quote

cubanlord wrote:
E-2 Visa to be extended from a 1 year to a 3 year period.


If this is true, I'm not so sure I see this as a positive development. It can be bad enough being shackled to the same employer for one year, now we might be stuck begging for an LoR if we want to leave before three years?

Unless there's something I'm missing here, this is not so good.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Can it be that Korea is finally moving towards a positiv Reply with quote

Son Deureo! wrote:
It can be bad enough being shackled to the same employer for one year, now we might be stuck begging for an LoR if we want to leave before three years?

Good point. And I'm going the other direction: my next contract will be for only six months.

I'd sign a 3-year contract only if I was more than ready to leave Korea for good, should the position fall through.

Now,.. if they allowed teachers to have work visas not tied to a particular employer, like is done in Japan, then that would be a positive move.


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flotsam



Joined: 28 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Can it be that Korea is finally moving towards a positiv Reply with quote

Son Deureo! wrote:
cubanlord wrote:
E-2 Visa to be extended from a 1 year to a 3 year period.


If this is true, I'm not so sure I see this as a positive development. It can be bad enough being shackled to the same employer for one year, now we might be stuck begging for an LoR if we want to leave before three years?

Unless there's something I'm missing here, this is not so good.


YIKES! Didin't think of that.

Imagine the mandatory three year commitment coming down the line... Shocked

But the real grail...look with me...over there...yes, on the horizon...that star shimmering just between rising dusk and setting sun:

A THREE YEAR VISA WITH NO TIE TO AN EMPLOYER!! Shocked Shocked Shocked

Sorry, I shouldn't have even mentioned it. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry.
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cubanlord



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flotsam wrote:
Hmmm..medoubts a Hines Ward connection.

Can you post where you read about this? Otherwise it's hearsay.


I teach Teen Times in the morning. It's in the newest edition. I assume that whoever produces the newspaper also will have it on their website.
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flotsam



Joined: 28 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cubanlord wrote:
flotsam wrote:
Hmmm..medoubts a Hines Ward connection.

Can you post where you read about this? Otherwise it's hearsay.


I teach Teen Times in the morning. It's in the newest edition. I assume that whoever produces the newspaper also will have it on their website.


Crap...what is it? Korea Times me reckons...off to the site.
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flotsam



Joined: 28 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, Cubanlord. You git.

Quote:
Ethnic Koreans to Enjoy Simplified Work-Visa Status


By Seo Dong-shin
Staff Reporter
Ethnic Koreans may enjoy a simplified process of employment at businesses in South Korea from as early as September, as they should be able to acquire H-2 visas that will allow them free entry and departure from the nation for three years upon issuance.

The Cabinet Tuesday passed a revision of the law governing the employment of foreign workers, which is subject to the approval by the National Assembly.

The revision allows ethnic Koreans, who want to work in the construction or service industries, to sign a direct contract with employers without asking job agencies first. Under the revised law they can also change their workplaces without separate permission being required.

Under the current law, employers in the service sector should first try to employ Korean nationals, and must seek prior permission to recruit ethnic Koreans with foreign nationalities. Previously, ethnic Koreans had to enter South Korea with F-1 visas on a one-year basis, and change it to E-9 visa to work here.

The revision was proposed to expand work opportunities for ethnic Koreans here, as part of efforts to embrace them as members of society, according to the Ministry of Labor.

``By simplifying the employment process, ethnic Koreans who want to work in simple manual labor will have more job opportunities in construction and service industries,�� a ministry official said.

Meanwhile, the Cabinet also passed an enforcement ordinance on international schools and investment conditions in Cheju Island which has been designated as a free international city.

As the law on building the free international city takes effect from next month, the government saw it necessary to set rules for specifics related to the international schools, officials said.

By the new ordinance, it will become possible for those without certificates to be school principals and head up international schools in Cheju. The principals of the international schools will have the freedom to decide the number of academic years, curriculums, and entry qualification for foreigners on their own.

In addition, more businesses will be allowed to invest in the Cheju Investment Promotion Area. Investment of $5 million or more will be designated as a promotion area, down from the current $10 million.

The range of businesses will be also expanded to the educational, medical, electronic and biotech industries.

``We hope that easing of the regulations and broadening of the ranges will boost foreigners� investment in Cheju Island,�� an official said.
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cubanlord



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

flotsam wrote:
Oh, Cubanlord. You git.

Quote:
Ethnic Koreans to Enjoy Simplified Work-Visa Status


By Seo Dong-shin
Staff Reporter
Ethnic Koreans may enjoy a simplified process of employment at businesses in South Korea from as early as September, as they should be able to acquire H-2 visas that will allow them free entry and departure from the nation for three years upon issuance.

The Cabinet Tuesday passed a revision of the law governing the employment of foreign workers, which is subject to the approval by the National Assembly.

The revision allows ethnic Koreans, who want to work in the construction or service industries, to sign a direct contract with employers without asking job agencies first. Under the revised law they can also change their workplaces without separate permission being required.

Under the current law, employers in the service sector should first try to employ Korean nationals, and must seek prior permission to recruit ethnic Koreans with foreign nationalities. Previously, ethnic Koreans had to enter South Korea with F-1 visas on a one-year basis, and change it to E-9 visa to work here.

The revision was proposed to expand work opportunities for ethnic Koreans here, as part of efforts to embrace them as members of society, according to the Ministry of Labor.

``By simplifying the employment process, ethnic Koreans who want to work in simple manual labor will have more job opportunities in construction and service industries,�� a ministry official said.

Meanwhile, the Cabinet also passed an enforcement ordinance on international schools and investment conditions in Cheju Island which has been designated as a free international city.

As the law on building the free international city takes effect from next month, the government saw it necessary to set rules for specifics related to the international schools, officials said.

By the new ordinance, it will become possible for those without certificates to be school principals and head up international schools in Cheju. The principals of the international schools will have the freedom to decide the number of academic years, curriculums, and entry qualification for foreigners on their own.

In addition, more businesses will be allowed to invest in the Cheju Investment Promotion Area. Investment of $5 million or more will be designated as a promotion area, down from the current $10 million.

The range of businesses will be also expanded to the educational, medical, electronic and biotech industries.

``We hope that easing of the regulations and broadening of the ranges will boost foreigners� investment in Cheju Island,�� an official said.


It's close. More detail about stuff that applies to us in the paper.
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I_Am_Wrong



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: whatever

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd hope that if they changed the e-2 to a 3 year visa then they would change it to be more along the lines of a Japanese work visa. Ie. not tied down to the employer.
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eeven if all this is true, which it could be, the 3-year visa would only be available to those with a 3-year contract. At least from the private sector, I do not see many of those being offered - do you?
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It doesn't make sense.

A 3-year visa for a single place of employment? I doubt many employers would like to be stuck with a winner for that long, nor many employees.

No ties to an employer? That's just nuts for so many reasons.

Maybe it will be an option for the employer to offer the employee if all is going well? That may make sense, but really, why bother? If the employee wants to stay on at the same place, there is very little hassle in renewing an E2; not enough to make a 3-year deal anything too special.
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