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Dan The Chainsawman
Joined: 05 May 2005
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| Listen to the man he knows what he is talking about. Instead take a cue from his avatar and get a stable of hot female mud wrestlers together and take the world by storm. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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| The Man known as The Man wrote: |
Privates are illegal.
So glad I could help. |
And from what planet do you come from?
Privates are not illegal, thre is no law against teaching privately.
As the above person stated, it is the proper way of dealing with the income tax that can provide issues, not the teaching itself. |
Depends on the visa. An E-2 (which most people have here) teaching privates (at other than your place of employment) is illegal regardless of whether you report income tax. |
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livinginkorea
Joined: 11 Jun 2004
Location: Korea, South of the border
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| Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Juregen wrote: |
Thanks for the support
I was thinking i said something completely out of line and offended some people |
Not at all. You have to take the rough with he smooth. On here there are so many different types of people that you can't make everybody happy. It's just impossible. If somebody gets offended then just ignore them.
Also ingore The Man Know as The Man with his/her "privates are illegal" crap. They have been saying that for a long time. That's all that they can ever say about the matter. It's illegal for Koreans too but nobody stops them. Ask your wife to check out immigration about claming it. I think that you can claim it so then it's legal but don't quote me on that.
Check into doing some company classes too. Check worknplay.com for jobs.
If you are married to a Korean and get caught by the police then you won't get deported for teaching privates unlike E-2 Visa holders, they just fine you and besides I have never met anybody who got caught teaching privates and I'm here nearly 3 years. As I said before just be careful. |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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| Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 2:18 am Post subject: |
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Just to give an quick update
I dropped here and there that i might wanna do privates and i got 4 possible buyers in one day
I think my area is really void of any quality hagwons, really strange |
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livinginkorea
Joined: 11 Jun 2004
Location: Korea, South of the border
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| Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 2:27 am Post subject: |
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| Juregen wrote: |
Just to give an quick update
I dropped here and there that i might wanna do privates and i got 4 possible buyers in one day
I think my area is really void of any quality hagwons, really strange |
In Korea there are not many quality hagwons. Also parents are crazy about English now so you will always have offers. Just say that you studied in England  Well they won't be able to notice unless you have a very harsh accent that they can't understand.
Now the next question is - how much are you charging? |
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The Man known as The Man
Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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Stay away from doing the privates.
You won't be making any money doing privates.
Privates are illegal. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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(And as for those who insist that it's not relevant for a teacher to know how to spell anything properly--would you take your car to a garage where the serviceman didn't know the difference between the coolant and the windshield washer fluid? Ah, but that doesn't mean he can't capably check the air pressure in the tires. Uh-huh.) |
1. In general, we teach conversation, not writing. So spelling is moot.
2. Are you seriously judging someone's spelling / English ability by their posts?
3. I'm sure the OP knows the difference between 'whether' and 'weather'. i.e. your analogy. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 4:18 pm Post subject: |
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| The Man known as The Man wrote: |
| Stay away from doing the privates. |
On an E2. On an F2 or F5 go ahead and do them. You can even get a license to do them.
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| You won't be making any money doing privates. |
You can easily get over a million a month doing just a few hours of privates a week.
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| Privates are illegal. |
Only on certain visas.
I myself stay away from privates but do corprorate classes. better pay for several reasons. |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 4:57 pm Post subject: |
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| livinginkorea wrote: |
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Now the next question is - how much are you charging? |
Well i'll give a small update on the situation
after one week of "marketing" i have now about 16 students, which imho is a lot.
I live in a less then strong financial equiped area, and i made it possible to do it cheaper for some.
It goes like following
1v1 - 40.000 per hour
2v1 - 20.000 per hour per person
3v1 - 15.000 per hour per person
5v1 - 10.000 per hour per person
Then i agree upon a monthly schedule with the student, est voila.
I have 9 students already commited, and now i need to do 7 more, quit complicated actually, since there are a lot of different time preferences. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Juregen wrote: |
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Now the next question is - how much are you charging? |
Well i'll give a small update on the situation
after one week of "marketing" i have now about 16 students, which imho is a lot.
I live in a less then strong financial equiped area, and i made it possible to do it cheaper for some.
It goes like following
1v1 - 40.000 per hour
2v1 - 20.000 per hour per person
3v1 - 15.000 per hour per person
5v1 - 10.000 per hour per person
Then i agree upon a monthly schedule with the student, est voila.
I have 9 students already commited, and now i need to do 7 more, quit complicated actually, since there are a lot of different time preferences. |
How did you market? Kids or adults?
The thing I dont like about privates is that they arent really reliable. Cancellations happen.
For me my schedule is all corporate classes:
Mon: 2 hours for 50,000
Tue: 1.5 hours at 45,000
Wed: 1 hour at 65,000
Thurs: 2 hours for 50,000
fri: 1.5 hours 45,000
When I did privates before I lost a lot because of cacelletions. Corporate classes dont cancel since always atlast one person comes. |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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How did you market? Kids or adults?
The thing I dont like about privates is that they arent really reliable. Cancellations happen.
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I marketed mainly word to mouth and hung a few posters here and there.
I do kids and adults .
I make a 4 weeks schedule, so they pay up front for 4 weeks , that will commit them 100 percent for 4 weeks. Koreans are very money conscious.
The thing is that if Koreans have a feeling it is not worth the money, they stop and shop elsewhere. Note the "feeling", that is why i tend to aim at short term gains, and long term plans.
Each class they will have learned a few very practical things, but underneath i teach them grammar and vocabularly. |
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JZer
Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Sure, a person's spelling and grammar doesn't have to be perfect to be an adequate teacher, but just don't trick yourself into thinking your tutelage is worth 50,000 won an hour. |
You can find many native speakers that cannot spell well. What is your point? |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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I don't charge by the hour...that makes one look cheap. I have a set rate for classes; one-on-one, 2, 3 ,4 and ends at 5 per class. More students up to that maximum, and it costs each individual less.
Yeah, if one does the math, it works out to xxx per hour, but to Koreans, a monthy rate is more professional sounding. Hagwons don't charge by the hour, nor do I. Besides, I don't work on an hourly basis, but on a monthly one. So that's how I charge. It's all about perception.
My classes include 2 short phone calls per week and daily e-mails; token stuff, really. Makes the whole package more appealing and there is no shortage of students.
It's not illegal if one has the right visa and /or paperwork, one can make a fair chunk of money and best of all, I don't have to leave my house! |
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JZer
Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Location: South Korea
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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| If a Korean with actual experience owning a school has trouble running it in a profit, what makes you think you can do it. I would bet good money that you barely speak passable Korean and if that is true...who will speak to the mothers? |
If there are no other hogwons in Jurgen's area, it should not be difficult for him to make a profit. As for making a profit running a hogwon, if you keep the staff down it is not that hard. One advantage to running a business here is that you can get a room using key money.(no rent) The result is that the overhead for running a school or any small business is not that high.
Once one has desk and a whiteboard, the cost of a hogwon is very low. The best is if you start a hogwon with a Korean wife. I know a couple that has their own hogwon. They don't have any employees. Their only cost are for electic and oil, since they don't have to pay rent and have no staff. |
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Juregen
Joined: 30 May 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 9:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Demophobe wrote: |
I don't charge by the hour...that makes one look cheap. I have a set rate for classes; one-on-one, 2, 3 ,4 and ends at 5 per class. More students up to that maximum, and it costs each individual less.
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The strange things is when i talked about a monthly fee, people reacted negatively, when i talked about hourly rates depending on their group, they were more inclined to go with it.
So i am sticking to the cheapness. I stick to what works best for me:) |
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