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cubanlord
Joined: 08 Jul 2005
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It is very, very quiet in my officetel this morning. I am looking forward to posts from people who made it out to the public gatherings tonight.
It was a respectable showing for the Koreans--more representative of their actual talent and potential at this stage.
I just hope they accept it and don't set up a new Silmido to take out that ref. |
hahahhaha. you think?????? They were all up in his grill. You could see the ref. trying to get them to back off. Man....the wife and I are going to coex in a few hours...I hope we don't get lynched! 
I think we have agreed to only speak Spanish to each other. lol  |
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indytrucks
Joined: 09 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:30 pm Post subject: |
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| The Frei goal wasn't offside. The ball came off a Korean defender. It was well spotted by the ref, who aside from giving a few dubious bookings, had an outstanding game. |
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Guri Guy
Joined: 07 Sep 2003
Location: Bamboo Island
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| Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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That is correct, the ball went off the Korean defender so it wasn't offside.
Frei looked good out there today and was the man of the match. Switzerland wanted it more obviously. We'll see how they do against Ukraine. |
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Bo Peabody
Joined: 25 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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I'm a fan of the game - I seek out the 'beautiful football' ie. geometric positioning, finesse in front of goal etc. Supported the Reds for the past year or so, and as much as I wanted them to advance, couldn't shake off the cold hard reality watching the match:
They are playing sh*t.
1. The midfield is virtually invisible.
2. The defense is consistently shaky.
3. They resort to the four striker 'long ball' 80% of the time.
None of the 16 sides remaining have all three problems and they rightly deserve to play on.
Correct me if I'm wrong in my assessment and say what you will about the dodgy ref. Switzerland created more genuine chances and played better against Togo.
This should be a wake up call to the KFA that you can't just hire another Dutch manager, pray for the best and expect a Korea in the semifinals. You need a thorough domestic league and a genuine football culture. |
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JJK1
Joined: 22 May 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:07 pm Post subject: |
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| indytrucks wrote: |
| The Frei goal wasn't offside. The ball came off a Korean defender. It was well spotted by the ref, who aside from giving a few dubious bookings, had an outstanding game. |
It is still offsides even if it is deflected off a defender. Its only onsides if it is CLEARED
The ref had an outstanding game? He missed two handballs in the penalty box. Couldve been two easy goals for Korea right there |
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LL Moonmanhead
Joined: 21 Mar 2005
Location: yo momma
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| Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:15 pm Post subject: |
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| indytrucks wrote: |
| The Frei goal wasn't offside. The ball came off a Korean defender. It was well spotted by the ref, who aside from giving a few dubious bookings, had an outstanding game. |
It is still offsides even if it is deflected off a defender. Its only onsides if it is CLEARED
The ref had an outstanding game? He missed two handballs in the penalty box. Couldve been two easy goals for Korea right there |
Offsides, ha, ha...
The ref was 100% right, the linesman was wrong. Final decision is the ref's. The ball was played sideways, not towards the Swiss forward - it was diverted towards him by a Korean defender. No offside.
The only thing the ref did wrong in my eyes was to book the two lads protesting, instead of taking them to one side , with their team captain, and explaining his decision.
Still think the Koreans were hard done by to some degree, but 1-0, 2-0, doesn't matter really. COME ON ENGLAND!!!!!!!! |
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bigverne
Joined: 12 May 2004
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| Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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| He missed two handballs in the penalty box. Couldve been two easy goals for Korea right there |
For the ref to give a penalty on two minor handballs that he didn't have a clear sight of would have been very harsh. You can't go through to the 2nd round of the World Cup relying on those kind of decisions. Fact is that Korea were awful in the first half. Too many cheap passes given away, and very little cutting edge. In the second half they played with alot of heart, and constantly resorted to the long ball game. They simply did not create enough chances, and were actually in a pretty tough group...the Swiss are a good side and will probably make the QF's. |
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jaganath69
Joined: 17 Jul 2003
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| Yep, and the main Korean scoring weapon these days seems to be the goal line clusterf#ck. No Steven Gerrard popping up in oportune places, no Fernando Torres blazing through the middle like a true number 10 should, no Michael Essien popping up outside the goalbox with a 40 yard screamer. In short, they had very little and didn't deserve to go through. |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:57 pm Post subject: Re: The Switzerland game |
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| Just saw the Swiss guy score the first goal with his head. It seems like the Korean goalkeeper should've been able to block that one. He didn't even move. Apparently caught by surprise. |
My thoughts as well. Why didn't he move? The header seemed to catch him flat-footed.
btw - You ever try PS2 soccer? After playing, my interest in "footy" has grown significantly 
| indytrucks wrote: |
The Frei goal wasn't offside. The ball came off a Korean defender. It was well spotted by the ref, who
aside from giving a few dubious bookings, had an outstanding game. |
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indytrucks
Joined: 09 Apr 2003
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Guri Guy
Joined: 07 Sep 2003
Location: Bamboo Island
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| Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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Ahn Jung Hwan is a good substitute player according to many people. His fitness or stamina is questionable apparently.
He is good coming into the game around the 70th minute. It has payed off before for Korea. Not this time though.
I don't blame Advocaat for that decision. |
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4 months left
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Irregardless of it being a marignal call, they wouldn't have gone on. The best they would have done is tie it 1-1. France won 2-0, they would have gone (methinks)
They played well (if only for this last game) and should feel no shame. |
Dude, I'm the last person to go off about grammar but irregardless is not a word. But then again maybe you were using it in jest.
Regardless of what you have heard, �irregardless� is a redundancy. The suffix �-less� on the end of the word already makes the word negative. It doesn�t need the negative prefix �ir-� added to make it even more negative. |
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Guri Guy
Joined: 07 Sep 2003
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| Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 1:52 am Post subject: |
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On the Contrary, irregardless is a word. Whether you think it is a word or not is not important. It is in the dictionary. Get off your grammatical high horse. 
Usage Note: Irregardless is a word that many mistakenly believe to be correct usage in formal style, when in fact it is used chiefly in nonstandard speech or casual writing. Coined in the United States in the early 20th century, it has met with a blizzard of condemnation for being an improper yoking of irrespective and regardless and for the logical absurdity of combining the negative ir- prefix and -less suffix in a single term. Although one might reasonably argue that it is no different from words with redundant affixes like debone and unravel, it has been considered a blunder for decades and will probably continue to be so.
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Source: The American Heritage� Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
Copyright � 2000 by Houghton Mifflin Company.
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irregardless
adv : regardless; a combination of irrespective and regardless sometimes used humorously
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/irregardless |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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Irregardless
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undoubtlessly
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