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| Will They Beat the Swiss? |
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| Draw and go home |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| They act like it is life or death. |
Doesn't the suicide rate in Brazil skyrocket when they perform poorly in the WC?
I may be jumping the gun a bit, but if Korea makes an early exit, I don't see that happening.
At least I hope so.
BTW, I was surprised to discover that the English Premier League isn't covered well here. You'd think that one of the top leagues of the world's most popular sport would get some shine.
The NBA gets more love in Korea, it seems. Not that I'm complaing (although they should cover more playoffs games).
Anyway, I hope Korea beats the Swiss. Unfortunately I have to work tomorrow and can't catch the game.
Hopefully it's well-played.
Sparkles*_* |
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Guri Guy
Joined: 07 Sep 2003
Location: Bamboo Island
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| Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 5:37 am Post subject: |
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Japan local football does not draw huge crowds...they drew huge crowds during the qualifiers and at big events....the regular league is midly supported at best.
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World Cup stadiums in Japan, South Korea enjoy mixed fortunes
TOKYO (AP) - Despite dire predictions they would go to waste, the state-of-the-art stadiums built for the 2002 soccer World Cup are getting plenty of use four years after Japan co-hosted the tournament with South Korea.
Japan spent a reported US$4.5 billion (euro3.52 billion) to build nine World Cup stadiums, which many predicted would end up being spectacular white elephants in the middle of nowhere. That's not the case in Japan, a country where it's not unusual for 50,000 fans to show up for the final of a high school baseball tournament.
The biggest source of revenue for most of the World Cup stadiums comes from the domestic J-League, where 26 of the 28 soccer clubs in both the first and second divisions reported a profit in 2005.
Attendance figures of 57,000 per match for popular teams like the Urawa Reds are not uncommon. Average club gate revenues in the top division were US$5.5 million (euro4.31 million) in the 2004 business year.
In 2005, the Reds, who play at World Cup Saitama Stadium 2002, had an average attendance of 39,000.
Sapporo Dome, which hosted a 2002 World Cup match between England and Argentina, is the home of both J-League team Consadole Sapporo and baseball's Nippon Ham Fighters, who moved to Sapporo in 2004.
When there are no soccer or baseball games in town, the 40,000-seat stadium hosts a variety of events including amateur sporting events, concerts and exhibitions. "Our profits are way up,'' said Satoshi Wakai, a spokesman for the Sapporo Dome, which operates as an independent company. "Having the baseball team was a big help and hopefully the trend will continue.''
In the fiscal year completed in March, 2005, a total of 2.2 million people went through the turnstiles at the multipurpose venue for a total of 123 events.
Of course, it would have been better if Japan could have used existing stadiums but that wasn't an option. Before the World Cup, Japan had very few stadiums that would have met FIFA's standards.
If local governments have trouble keeping the stadiums viable, they can always look to corporate Japan for help.
The 70,000-seat International Stadium Yokohama, which hosted the 2002 final between Germany and Brazil, had some financial difficulties immediately following the World Cup but sold its naming rights to auto giant Nissan Motor Co. in 2005 and is host to the J-League's Yokohama F Marinos, one of the most popular teams in the top division.
Similarly, the Oita Big Eye on Japan's southern island of Kyushu recently sold its naming rights and is now known as Kyushu Oil Dome.
The situation is not quite as rosy in South Korea, where 10 stadiums were built.
Attendance for South Korea's K-League has gone down in recent years.
"The attendance rate at our matches seems to be dropping these days,'' said an official of K-League team Chonbuk, who declined to give his name. "Korean people only get excited about the national team. Many people like baseball or the English Premier League but aren't really interested in the K-League.''
Jeju World Cup Stadium, which cost US$133.6 million (euro104.64 million) to build on the south side of South Korea's honeymoon island, wasn't getting much use until K-League side Jeju United moved in this year.
Whether the arrival of one of the weakest teams in the league will help the stadium turn a profit remains to be seen.-AP
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2006/5/22/apworld/20060522173928&sec=apworld
Homer says:
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| I said new to the international stage of sports... |
This is their seventh World Cup Homer. Give it a rest. They don't give a damn about football and it is clear to anyone who looks at the facts. They only love Daehanminguk. Is that too much to ask? |
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Guri Guy
Joined: 07 Sep 2003
Location: Bamboo Island
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| Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 5:50 am Post subject: |
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More for your reading pleasure. Pretty good article by a Korean newspaper. Nice to see:
Jung Hae-gu from Sungkonghoe University said companies' voracious appetite for profits will, in the end, destroy the Korean pride that was generated by their volunteerism four years ago. ``Street cheering has become a tool for marketing, a tool for demonstrating the national spirit to people outside Korea,'' he said. ``Amid a host of World Cup commercials embroidered with emotional patriotic rhetoric, stars and conglomerates appear to be working together for the public good. However, behind such images, they are busy making personal gain.''
Struggling for International Recognition
Experts say that along with the influence of commercialism and the media, Korea's World Cup fever stems from Koreans' desire for international recognition and outdoor festivities.
``Rather than enjoying football itself, Koreans seem to love the prestige of World Cup matches,'' said Kang Joon-man, a Chonbuk National University professor. ``Koreans care very much about games against other countries, especially top games like the World Cup. This attitude is testified to by low attendance at domestic K-League games.''
He said the country's unhappy history and long colonial experience have imbued Koreans with a strong desire for international recognition, generating an obsession with winning in international games.
He said that pure attachment to and love for football turns the game into an absolute existence _ a kind of religion, sometimes leading to hooliganism.
``However, since Koreans care more about the political and social meaning of football rather than the game itself, their passion for the sport can be compared to a temporary wind or a boiling pot that cools off in a few minutes,'' he said.
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/culture/200606/kt2006061517541011690.htm |
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Wishmaster
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 7:15 am Post subject: |
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| Yeah, same old same old. Korea striving for recognition and respect and not getting it because they, like the whole English Education thing, are doing it wrong. People don't respect racism and xenophobia and they don't respect irritating soccer fans. Until Korea grows up(and for Christ's sake, it has supposedly been over 5,000 years!!) they will never get that recognition. Enjoy. |
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Homer
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| Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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Well stupid insults aside...Korea lost and good job by the Swiss!
Korea played their hearts out but ran up against a tough D and an opportunistic Swiss team.
So on to the next round for them and France (who woke up in time to beat Togo).
No shame in defeat, the Red Devils did well and now can go home with their heads high.
The Korean fans in the stands were first class, all the way. Kept cheering to the last minute and thats pretty darned cool.
Now..Go Spain, Go Ghana (short go but hey!), Go Aussies! |
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Guri Guy
Joined: 07 Sep 2003
Location: Bamboo Island
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| Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Well put. Hopefully Korea will learn from the experience and do well in 2010. I sincerely hope they don't blame their coach. I don't think it was Advocaat's fault. Go Spain! Go Ghana! Go Netherlands! Go Australia! |
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pegpig
Joined: 10 May 2005
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| Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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The wife's already blaming the coach. I guess she's getting that from the stuff she's read on the internet because we haven't seen the game yet.  |
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Homer
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| Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 2:59 am Post subject: |
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Well Advocaat did a decent job of it. He might have been slow with the subs but thats no huge criticsm.
However pegpig remember this truism of sports: it is always the coach that pays for defeat. This holds true in every major team sport. It is not far nor is it accurate but it is what happens... |
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patchy1
Joined: 01 Jun 2006
Location: No, not patchy's sock. New account because old account got mucked up.
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| Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 3:14 am Post subject: |
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| Give me the money they pay Advocaat et al and if I don't bring the team to the top then blame me all you like. |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 4:12 am Post subject: |
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| Homer wrote: |
| However pegpig remember this truism of sports: it is always the coach that pays for defeat. This holds true in every major team sport. |
Not exactly. The Dallas Mavericks just lost the NBA Finals, and Dallas' coach, Avery Johnson, hasn't gotten any heat as far as I can tell. Most of the criticism has been aimed at Dirk Nowitzki for not stepping up his game, and the rest of the Mavs for settling for jumpers instead of driving towards the basket.
Maybe it's because it's Johnson's first full year as a coach, and he won the Coach of the Year award and took his team to their first ever Finals. But whatever the reason, no one appears to be blaming the Little General.
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Guri Guy
Joined: 07 Sep 2003
Location: Bamboo Island
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| Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 4:27 am Post subject: |
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Yes, but he got his team to the finals. Korea didn't even get a sniff.
I agree though. It is not always the coach's fault. The blame game is in full swing in this country now though... |
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pegpig
Joined: 10 May 2005
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| Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 9:24 am Post subject: |
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I'll take the blame if it'll make everyone happy.
Done.   It's my fault.  What the hell was I thinking?  Sorry.  Let's move on.  |
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