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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:05 pm    Post subject: Amusing Ironies Reply with quote

Life is full of contradictions and oddities and some of them show up here on Dave's. From time to time someone will mention they have run into an anti-American Korean who wants help dealing with American Immigration or a European in jeans and t-shirt complaining about American pop culture.

One that I noticed the other day: Someone with an air conditioned home,a cell phone that takes pictures, an iPod and a lap top was complaining about consumer culture.

Anyone else noticed anything lately?
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Satori



Joined: 09 Dec 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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European in jeans and t-shirt complaining about American pop culture.


Not very ironic. Or does this mean that americans who speak English can't complain about England in any way? If I don't like certain aspects of a culture do I have to boycott every single aspect and appliance from that culture in order to maintain my integrity?
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One that I noticed the other day: Someone with an air conditioned home,a cell phone that takes pictures, an iPod and a lap top was complaining about consumer culture.

Not very ironic. All extremely practical and useful things, and if they are the only "mod cons" you have you are not exactly a rabid consumer. Consumerism is about spending money on useless things you don't need.

So still waiting for the amazing ironies...
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jaderedux



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Lurking outside Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Satori wrote:
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European in jeans and t-shirt complaining about American pop culture.


Not very ironic. Or does this mean that americans who speak English can't complain about England in any way? If I don't like certain aspects of a culture do I have to boycott every single aspect and appliance from that culture in order to maintain my integrity?
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One that I noticed the other day: Someone with an air conditioned home,a cell phone that takes pictures, an iPod and a lap top was complaining about consumer culture.

Not very ironic. All extremely practical and useful things, and if they are the only "mod cons" you have you are not exactly a rabid consumer. Consumerism is about spending money on useless things you don't need.

So still waiting for the amazing ironies...


Hmm? I grew up quite well without a cellphone and an iPod or even a laptop. Are the useful...sometimes. Necessary not hardly. I don't need a computer. I don't need a cell phone and I still don't have a laptop. I seem to survive okay. The cell is nice but not necessary.

I love the irony of seeing the demos sometimes times. They have on American/English sport team tees and jerseys. Cap turned around and baggy pants like they are some kind of street gangster from Compton or Long Beach. Listening to rap music by 50 cent, emenim and JayZ. Yankee go home but leave your cool stuff that we like k?

Let's hang out at the starbucks and plan the next one.

But honestly who cares. Every thing has become so global. iPods are made in China and Nikes ....in sweatshops everywhere.

Jade
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's an amusing, but not an amazing, irony that Satori gets 'amusing' and 'amazing' mixed up.

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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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European in jeans and t-shirt complaining about American pop culture


I really do not understand this at all.
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thing that always springs to mind here is the Alanis Morrisette song "Ironic". I'm afraid the only irony evident when that song is played is the fact that Alanis clearly doesn't know what the word means. A free ride when you've already paid is Sod's Law (or Murphy's Law) - not irony.
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jaganath69



Joined: 17 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SPINOZA wrote:
The thing that always springs to mind here is the Alanis Morrisette song "Ironic". I'm afraid the only irony evident when that song is played is the fact that Alanis clearly doesn't know what the word means. A free ride when you've already paid is Sod's Law (or Murphy's Law) - not irony.


Could it be ironic that a song called ironic is full of examples of irony that aren't actually ironic?
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Beej



Joined: 05 Mar 2005
Location: Eungam Loop

PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korean ironies.

Every kid is forced to take up some musical instrument here, yet there is not a very good live music scene in Korea.

People rush and scurry aroung at the speed of light. Yet they are habitually late.

Some korean men dont like it when korean women date foreign guys, complaining that foreigners are taking their women. Its this conservative attitude of ownership that make some of these women want to date foreign guys.
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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beej wrote:
Korean ironies.

Some korean men dont like it when korean women date foreign guys, complaining that foreigners are taking their women. Its this conservative attitude of ownership that make some of these women want to date foreign guys.


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4 months left



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beej wrote:
Korean ironies.

Every kid is forced to take up some musical instrument here, yet there is not a very good live music scene in Korea.

People rush and scurry aroung at the speed of light. Yet they are habitually late.

Some korean men dont like it when korean women date foreign guys, complaining that foreigners are taking their women. Its this conservative attitude of ownership that make some of these women want to date foreign guys.


Agreed but unless you like classical music, who wants to go to a bar to watch a bunch of people playing cello, violin or piano?

It's ironic that Korean men don't like foreigners dating their women yet they have signs posted everywhere to find wives in Vietnam, Philippines, etc.
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