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[Len8]

I gotta lead an adult lesson on this topic. Anyone got any ideas on the topic.

So far feminism isn't a new thing. It's part of literary themes. Some famous authors were supposed to have come up with the term or set the feminist movement in motion.

There is the argument that not all women are diehard feminists and most are just ordinary females who shun the liberating aspects of the movement and would like nothing better than to stay home and raise their kids

Does feminism mean that all the vices that are readly available to men are equally available to the men.

Chejudo used to be matriarchal because women used to be the providers. The women used to visit Japan during their break times, and it was common knowledge that they went for the many trysts and extra escapades they could have. Their behaviour seemed to be a byproduct of their status. Status as maybe strong feminists or bread winners or maybe both

[doggyji]

I'm sure some students will talk about Korean men's military duty if you are going to touch the feminist movement in Korea. You might as well be prepared for the issue in my opinion.

[red dog]

Are you allowed to narrow down the topic at all? "Feminism" is such a broad word that it can mean practically anything -- or nothing. To cover it in its entirety you'd have to address every issue under the sun -- women in literature, art, film, the media, etc.; religion; rape and other forms of molestation; husbands beating up their wives; women's experiences with incompetent doctors; gender roles in the family (and in all the different kinds of families); equal pay for equal work; paternity suits; glass ceilings in various fields; abortion; how different groups of women are affected by racism, classism, homophobia, poverty, living in cold climates, etc.; "herstory"; ecofeminism; prostitution and pornography, pro and con -- and a lot more that I can't be bothered to try to remember. And at the end of it you'd never agree on an actual definition of feminism, but folks like DW will still be happy to provide one. (Maybe you could invite DW to your class as a guest speaker?)

OTOH, the (apparently) matriarchal society in Jeju sounds like an interesting topic all by itself. I'm sure that if you made it your main focus the students would have fun talking about whether a return to such times would be a good idea in 2006. You could encourage them to consider the positive and negative aspects of the way gender roles worked in that particular society and contrast matriarchal Jeju with the way things were 50 years ago, 20 years ago and today (for example), either in Korea or wherever. It could be an interesting class if you can maintain your focus and keep all the DWs away. ... Actually I'm really jealous that you can have these kinds of discussions with your students instead of being limited to the absolute basics and super "genki" activities. Not that those can't be fun too, of course.

Just my 2 won (to use a banned expression).

[Satori]

[RACETRAITOR]

You should mention that crazy American woman who was voted into the senate or congress or something because she promised to take away women's suffrage. I can't remember her name at the moment, but I could find it.

[red dog]

[ella]

The dictionary definition of feminism, "Belief in the social, political, and economic equality of the sexes," says it all and says it clearly and plainly. That's a good starting point. You should be able to find NOW's original 1967 charter online. That's a good place to start, too; NOW today is nowhere near the organization it started out as. Their original charter is well-written and a noteworthy historical document. Give it a read.

[red dog]

There are probably millions of organizations and individuals all over the planet operating under the vague umbrella of "feminism," but many of them disagree about how women can achieve social, political and economic equality. Some hold opposing views on numerous gender-related issues, such as those I mentioned above.

That dictionary definition could even be understood to mean: "Feminists believe the sexes have already achieved social, political and economic equality. No more needs to be done in this area." Clearly this isn't what the majority of feminists believe, and I don't believe it either. I used to consider myself a feminist, and my beliefs about gender issues really haven't changed all that much. I simply no longer find the word useful.

[ella]

My post was for the OP. I wasn't responding to any of the other posts.

[red dog]

[elynnor]

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[AbbeFaria]

Just cause it made me think of it, I give you: http://www.americanwomensuck.com/

These guys are pissed.

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[taobenli]

Yes, pissed and severely deluded:

8. If she is college-educated, be EXTREMELY wary; you should have a hair trigger for getting rid of her. If she has a graduate degree, it should be considered prejudicial (i.e. don't date her at all).

9. It is far better if she attends a conservative church.

Yup, we like our women uneducated, so that they don't have the reasoning to question us....and if they're brainwashed by fundamentalism, that's all the better.

[Alyallen]

The women of Chejudo seems really interesting.

This reminds me of this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosuo#Customs

The Mosuo are an ethnic group found in China that is matriarical or matrilineal depending on who you ask. In any case, their way of doing things is an interesting study of male-female relations and could be an interesting contrast to the women of Chejudo.

Good luck!

[Nowhere Man]

Before you go into the Cheju women, you might ask about being a "shutter man".