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Contemplating Returning to Korea and Feeling Nauseous
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K-in-C



Joined: 27 Mar 2003
Location: Heading somewhere

PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:48 pm    Post subject: Contemplating Returning to Korea and Feeling Nauseous Reply with quote

Hi all,

I have made four trips to Korea to teach and for one reason or another I never made it to the golden end of the contract with the severance and return airfare. I have had my passport held hostage, been manipulated to work hours that were not specified in my contract and dealt with some of the other negative situations ex-pats have had to deal with over in Korea. And... call me crazy if you like but I am considering returning again. Rolling Eyes The reason being the ALMIGHTY DOLLAR/WON.

I make ten plus Canadian an hour. I work 46 hours a week, but it is just not enough if I am going to get my debt paid off before I die, either from exhaustion or old age. I receive no benefits. I have looked for something better but to no avail.

What I really want to do is work/serve the Lord in Central America, even if it is for a pittance, but my two grown children tell me I need to save an egg nest and that going to CA to work would be irresponsible.

I have been contemplating this situation for the past six months. For those of you who pray please ask God to make it clear to me where he wants me to be. For those of you who don't pray, but have returned to Korea, albiet leary, please share your return experience.

Thanks so very much,

K-in-C
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semphoon



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: Where Nowon is

PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have the experience. Why did you leave? Was it the Korean culture or the jobs that caused you to leave?

If it was the jobs, you could find a more suitable position. If it was the Korean culture...then that's a bigger problem.
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jmbran11



Joined: 19 Jan 2006
Location: U.S.

PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 5:40 pm    Post subject: 4 times? Reply with quote

If you've attempted four times and not finished the contract, I'd figure out why before you make it a fifth. Returning without finishing can be quite expensive, as I learned five years ago.

On a brighter note, I have returned five years later and (at the 6 month point) am planning on staying another year or two. I knew what to look for this time in accepting a job.

If you really can't make ends meet in Canada, it's a good option. When you get here just remember the reasons you came, and that you are fortunate to have a viable alternative to poverty. That keeps me seeing the bright side of the good ol' ROK.
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kangnam mafioso



Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: Teheranno

PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i would say if you've tried 4 times and it hasn't worked out for you in korea, maybe it's not meant to be. try something else.
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rothkowitz



Joined: 27 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or somewhere else.
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Smee



Joined: 24 Dec 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Canadians---a real gullible bunch!
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djsmnc



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bet there's another pair of freshly polished hagwon owner's shoes waiting to walk ALL over you...
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numazawa



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smee wrote:
Canadians---a real gullible bunch!



Well, okay, if you say so... Smile
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:25 am    Post subject: Re: Contemplating Returning to Korea and Feeling Nauseous Reply with quote

K-in-C wrote:
my two grown children tell me I need to save an egg nest and that going to CA to work would be irresponsible.

In other words, they don't want to have to contribute financially to you in your old age. Children these days. And they have the gall to call you irresponsible. You spend all your time and money to raise them and they don't feel an iota of interest in helping you. Ayyyyy... Call me old fashioned.

Go where you want to. You've raised your family. The time for responsibility has passed. Live your life as you darn well feel like it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i would say if you've tried 4 times and it hasn't worked out for you in korea, maybe it's not meant to be. try something else.



That makes sense. Think about that one K-in-C.
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Four times? BLOODY HELL! You must've been very unlucky with your jobs or there's a personal issue there. It's a disastrous record I'm afraid. And if I may ask, why are you only on 10 Canadian bucks an hour? Surely with a degree you can find better.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:20 am    Post subject: Re: Contemplating Returning to Korea and Feeling Nauseous Reply with quote

K-in-C wrote:
Hi all,

I have made four trips to Korea to teach and for one reason or another I never made it to the golden end of the contract with the severance and return airfare. I have had my passport held hostage, been manipulated to work hours that were not specified in my contract and dealt with some of the other negative situations ex-pats have had to deal with over in Korea. And... call me crazy if you like but I am considering returning again. Rolling Eyes The reason being the ALMIGHTY DOLLAR/WON.

I


Just a few questions. They held your passport? Are you not aware that's illegal? One call to the embassy and they WILL go ape-s*** on your director. The Canadian government takes such things VERY seriously.

If those hours were not in your contract politely but firmly refuse

Most of the time I find that negative situations are created by people who WILL NOT stand up for themselves. Don't lie down and be a doormat.

Now that I'm done critiquing you, I will offer some helpful tips. Work for a PUBLIC SCHOOL, not a hakwon. They will be hiring in August and they are much more reliable. You are dealing with the government so there's not much worry that you will not be paid. I'm in my tenth month and things are going great...couldn't be better. One final caveat. If you are the type of person who doesn't have to be around other foreigners all the time, it would be worth your while to work in a rural location. Not only will you be paid MORE, you will likely be treated somewhat better then if you are in a city where foreigners are a dime a dozen.
At least that's been my experience.

NETKorea is one recruiter who works for them, you might want to consider checking Dave's Korean Jobs board, for info on how to contact them.
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K-in-C



Joined: 27 Mar 2003
Location: Heading somewhere

PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:33 am    Post subject: Re: Contemplating Returning to Korea and Feeling Nauseous Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth replied:

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Just a few questions. They held your passport? Are you not aware that's illegal? One call to the embassy and they WILL go ape-s*** on your director. The Canadian government takes such things VERY seriously. I did not know it was illegal at the time.


The director said she needed it for immigration.

If those hours were not in your contract politely but firmly refuse.[/quote]

I did.

One time I did have a fair boss but his enrollment was down and he could not afford to provide me with a place anymore. He felt bad. He never once blamed me for the low enrollment though like many directors do.

I don't mind being in a rural community so I will check out the recruiter service you mentioned. Thanks!
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mount real



Joined: 07 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm just wondering why you want to go to Central America and preach.....is it cause you want to visit there? Otherwise, there are tons of people I'm sure you can help right in your community (and probably end up making more than 10$ an hour.....I'm in Montreal and it's easy to find a job for at least double that).....

People in Central America have already heard about Jesus. He's quite big, you know.
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K-in-C



Joined: 27 Mar 2003
Location: Heading somewhere

PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:23 pm    Post subject: Guatemala Reply with quote

mount real wrote:
I'm just wondering why you want to go to Central America and preach.....is it cause you want to visit there? Otherwise, there are tons of people I'm sure you can help right in your community (and probably end up making more than 10$ an hour.....I'm in Montreal and it's easy to find a job for at least double that).....

People in Central America have already heard about Jesus. He's quite big, you know.


I taught down there before. I really miss the community I was in. I found my time there to be much more fullfilling than my Korean experience.

What kind of jobs are you finding that pay well in Montreal?
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