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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Reasons for the shape include: Round tubes are the strongest and most material-efficient shape against the compression of the earth around them. A circle is the simplest shape whereby the lid cannot fall into the hole. (A Reuleaux triangle or other curve of constant width would also serve this purpose, but round covers are much easier to manufacture.) The bearing surfaces of manhole frames and covers are machined to assure flatness and prevent them from becoming dislodged by traffic. Round castings are much easier to machine using horizontal boring mills. Circular covers can also be moved around by rolling, and they need not be aligned to put them back. |
Boo-yah!
I am the smartest man alive!!!
But I still have no idea what the hell you all were saying earlier. Was that a joke I wasn't cottoning on to? |
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Moldy Rutabaga

Joined: 01 Jul 2003 Location: Ansan, Korea
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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To me, the manhole problem was simple and the lightbulb one difficult.
A manhole is round because hoses and pipes are round, and people are closer to being round, and a square opening is a waste of space if the metal is so expensive. As well, if the manhole warps, a round piece of metal won't have a jagged edge sticking out.
Ken:> |
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matthews_world
Joined: 15 Feb 2003
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Anyway, we need some more. |
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poker player

Joined: 27 Sep 2004 Location: On the river
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:58 pm Post subject: |
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OK Notwithstanding that some of you used the internet which isn't possible inan interview, most of you were on the right track.
Actually a good part of the process is the interviewer observing how the candidate approaches the question including question they ask to clarify and the logic used to try to answer the question. The main point is that every question has an answer.
Here are the classic responses, in order of their popularity:
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Circular covers are the only geometric shape that won�t fall into the manhole shaft they cover.
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Circular manhole covers don�t need to be aligned or oriented with the manhole shaft.
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Circular manhole covers make it easier to lift, carry, or even roll the heavy items.
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The manufacture of circular manhole covers is cheaper because it requires less metal than the manufacture of covers of any other shape.
HERE's THE NEXT SIMPLE ONE
ELIMINATE A STATE
This is one of the most popular questions still asked at Microsoft. In each case the interviewer seems to have a different �correct� answer in mind.
If you had to eliminate one of the 50 U.S. states, which one would you select? Be prepared to give specific reasons why you chose the state you did.
Don�t get hung up looking for a �correct� answer.� There is no correct answer, unless you�re applying for a job with Microsoft, in which case Washington State is definitely a nonstarter. The best course is to reframe the question in some compelling way. Another idea: Don�t start with the name of a state, but build some suspense by walking the interviewer through your logic and seeing where you end up together. Humor always helps. There are dozens of creative answers. I'll give you the most popular 3 once you've had a run at it.
MORE DIFFICULT
Why do mirrors reverse right and left but not up and down? |
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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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Circular covers are the only geometric shape that won�t fall into the manhole shaft they cover.
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Circular manhole covers make it easier to lift, carry, or even roll the heavy items.
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I repeat: boo-yah!
And...
Rhode Island, just because Brown University is in Providence, the most boringly pseudo-eccentric failure of a city the world has ever seen.
I gots to think about the mirror thing. |
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matthews_world
Joined: 15 Feb 2003
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 5:08 am Post subject: |
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| Don�t start with the name of a state, but build some suspense by walking the interviewer through your logic and seeing where you end up together. |
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Rhode Island, just because Brown University is in Providence, the most boringly pseudo-eccentric failure of a city the world has ever seen.
I gots to think about the mirror thing. |
Well, see, there ya go. Naming the state first. *tsk, tsk* Bad form.  |
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Nowhere Man

Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:26 am Post subject: ... |
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Well, given that manhole covers are round...
...and we don't want any of our states to slip down some hidden volcanic vent...
...especially given the weight of those mountains on top of it...
I'd have to eliminate Colorado, our squarest state.
My prediction for the 3 most popular: Alaska and Hawaii (for their non-contiguousness) and California (for attitudes toward it in the Pacific Northeast, and it's gonna break off). |
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poker player

Joined: 27 Sep 2004 Location: On the river
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 3:43 pm Post subject: Re: ... |
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Here are the quotes from the book that impressed interviewers the most
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1. Well, I don�t want to be responsible for eliminating actual people. So I�d eliminate the political entity of a state by ceding it to Canada, perhaps a state that shares a border with Canada, such as North Dakota or Vermont. Would I still be able to visit?
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A similar approach calls for eliminating a state by actually combining it with one of its neighbors. For example, Connecticut can annex Rhode Island. Or North and South Dakota can be combined to form the state of Dakota.
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I�d eliminate Wyoming [you get points for knowing that Wyoming is the least populous state], but only if the people and natural attributes can be relocated to a theme park on the Las Vegas strip.
Candidates should be aware that some interviewers have an agenda when asking this question and want candidates to come to a certain conclusion. One candidate reports that when he was asked this question, the interviewer indicated the �correct� answer was to divide a square state (like Colorado or Wyoming) into several parts (presumably rectangular) and merge them with the neighbor states. It turns out that the interviewer had Colorado in mind as the ideal response. |
Flotsam, you're on fire
Here is the mirror answer.
The best response may be to challenge the statement of the question: A mirror doesn�t necessarily reverse left and right or up and down. The puzzle really tests a willingness to reflect independent thinking, even to the point of challenging assumptions posed by the interviewer. One candidate responded to the mirror puzzle like this:
I don�t think the problem is stated quite right. Mirrors don�t reverse left and right; they reverse front and back. Stated another way, mirrors invert front to back, not left to right. An easy way to prove this is to stand facing north with a mirror in front of you. Wave your left (west) hand. The image in the mirror waves its west hand too, so there is no left-right reversal. The popular misconception of the inversion is caused by the fact that when person A looks at another person B, person A expects person B to face him or her. But when person A
faces himself (in the mirror), he sees an uninverted person A.
Books have been written about this subject. Resist the temptation to summarize their points.
NEW QUESTION
Imagine that we sprinkle some salt on a piece of white paper. Then we sprinkle some pepper over the salt. Now, using only a plastic comb, how would you separate the salt from the pepper? |
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