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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| A secular humanist doesn't have to be soulless. I have a lot of love in my heart. If I "believe" in anything, it's humanity, for which I have a lot of concern and deep feeling. How can you describe this as soulless? |
I think he was joking. If I made a list of the top ten soulless people I've known, nine of them would be various Christians, and the tenth is a kickass guitar player. |
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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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| Satori wrote: |
| A secular humanist doesn't have to be soulless. I have a lot of love in my heart. If I "believe" in anything, it's humanity, for which I have a lot of concern and deep feeling. How can you describe this as soulless? |
Like this: You Satori are a soulless bastard. You have no soul. Where there should be a soul, there is nothing but a hole the size of a mole.
But:
a. If you thought I was serious, it seems to me you have misgivings in your lack of faith...hmmm....
b. If you are so secular, why care about whether or not you have a soul?
c. Who do you think I am, 5pigeons? I was kidding. |
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all
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| Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 12:43 am Post subject: |
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| flotsam wrote: |
| Satori wrote: |
| A secular humanist doesn't have to be soulless. I have a lot of love in my heart. If I "believe" in anything, it's humanity, for which I have a lot of concern and deep feeling. How can you describe this as soulless? |
Like this: You Satori are a soulless *beep*. You have no soul. Where there should be a soul, there is nothing but a hole the size of a mole.
But:
a. If you thought I was serious, it seems to me you have misgivings in your lack of faith...hmmm....
b. If you are so secular, why care about whether or not you have a soul?
c. Who do you think I am, 5pigeons? I was kidding. |
Well I was responding both to you and hermes.trismegistus, you I wasn't sure about, but I'm pretty sure hermes.trismegistus is not joking.
Second, I was thinking soulless in the broader sense of "soulful" not the religious sense of "I have a soul"...  |
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Delirium's Brother
Joined: 08 May 2006
Location: Out in that field with Rumi, waiting for you to join us!
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| Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 1:02 am Post subject: |
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That test was totally wack...
On a good day, I oscillate between hardcore atheism and gnostic christian anarchism with tendancies towards sufism. It's kind of a mood swing thing, you see; but the test said:
1. Hinduism (100%)
2. Mahayana Buddhism (99%)
3. Unitarian Universalism (88%)
4. Theravada Buddhism (87%)
5. Liberal Quakers (83%)
WTF??? They just don't know me at all! This must be some kind of conspiracy.
The political compass test was way more accurate:
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -6.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.72
Apparently, I'm a anarcho-syndicalist; slightly more hardcore than Nelson Mandela and the Dalai Lama. That sounds about right!
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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 1:04 am Post subject: |
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| Delirium's Brother wrote: |
The political compass test was way more accurate:
Your political compass
Economic Left/Right: -6.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.72
Apparently, I'm a anarcho-syndicalist; slightly more hardcore than Nelson Mandela and the Dalai Lama. That sounds about right! |
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The Political Compass
Economic Left/Right: -5.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.49 |
Fun stuff.
Too lazy to start another thread tonight though..something to do in the morning. |
Solidarity, brother! (Although you are little too in line with the man for my liking...  )
**EDIT**
Too, dammit.
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Delirium's Brother
Joined: 08 May 2006
Location: Out in that field with Rumi, waiting for you to join us!
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| Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 1:44 am Post subject: |
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Although you are little to in line with the man for my liking... |
When I read that I laugh so hard I almost pee'd my pants. Haven't laughed that hard since reading the "freakiest waygook" thread.
Dude, when it all goes down, I'll be by your side; It's just the whole "money = power" vibe you're giving off is playing havoc with my chakras Maybe you can work on that a bit.
Peace |
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JLarter
Joined: 17 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 1:16 am Post subject: |
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| My religion is football. My church is Wembley. My pues are the terraces. My vicar is David Beckham. My bread and water is lucozade and oranges. My bible is the FA handbook. |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul
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| Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 1:34 am Post subject: |
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1. Secular Humanism (100%)
2. Unitarian Universalism (100%)
3. Liberal Quakers (91%)
4. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (89%)
5. Theravada Buddhism (69%)
6. Nontheist (67%)
7. Neo-Pagan (65%)
8. Bah??Faith (60%)
9. New Age (55%)
10. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (49%)
11. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (48%)
12. Taoism (47%)
13. Reform Judaism (46%)
14. Mahayana Buddhism (46%)
15. New Thought (38%)
16. Orthodox Quaker (37%)
17. Jehovah's Witness (36%)
18. Jainism (35%)
19. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (35%)
20. Sikhism (33%)
21. Scientology (32%)
22. Hinduism (24%)
23. Seventh Day Adventist (20%)
24. Eastern Orthodox (17%)
25. Islam (17%)
26. Orthodox Judaism (17%)
27. Roman Catholic (17%) |
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hermes.trismegistus
Joined: 08 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 2:18 am Post subject: |
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| Well I was responding both to you and hermes.trismegistus, you I wasn't sure about, but I'm pretty sure hermes.trismegistus is not joking. |
You'd be correct. I've never enjoyed the company of anyone who identified as a secular humanist - which has a striking similarity to logical positivism and fundamentalist materialisms of various persuasions.
Not to say at some point that disparity won't be remedied, but I certainly wouldn't bet on it coming any time soon. It'd take a truly fascinating individual for me to over-look such an ideologic persuasion.
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Secular humanists have about as much appeal as logical positivists... somewhere just shy of a rotting banana.
I haven't seen obvious examples of secular humanism expressed by Satori. But then perhaps I just missed the trappings of materialism in comments... |
I didn't equate anyone as a secular humanist or logical positivist. I merely iterated my experience with others of similar persuasions.
Namaste. |
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merlot
Joined: 04 Nov 2005
Location: I tried to contain myself but I escaped.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 3:52 am Post subject: |
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100% Mahayana Buddhism
Ummmm, how Convenient.
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA
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| Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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The options given did not adequately represent Gaudiya Vaishnavism or the personalist tradition of Vedic culture (identifying "Hinduism" only with impersonal beliefs...)
Therefore, I came out looking like an old rabbi (though I'm not Jewish...)
1. Orthodox Judaism (100%)
2. Islam (97%)
3. Jainism (95%)
4. Sikhism (93%)
5. Hinduism (91%)
6. Bah�'� Faith (85%)
7. Mahayana Buddhism (73%)
8. Reform Judaism (71%)
9. Mainline to Conservative Christian/Protestant (67%)
10. Eastern Orthodox (64%)
11. Roman Catholic (64%)
12. Theravada Buddhism (60%)
13. Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons) (57%)
14. Seventh Day Adventist (57%)
15. Jehovah's Witness (51%)
16. Orthodox Quaker (49%)
17. Unitarian Universalism (47%)
18. Liberal Quakers (46%)
19. Mainline to Liberal Christian Protestants (46%)
20. Neo-Pagan (46%)
21. Scientology (44%)
22. Christian Science (Church of Christ, Scientist) (39%)
23. New Thought (39%)
24. New Age (37%)
25. Nontheist (35%)
26. Taoism (30%)
27. Secular Humanism (22%)
(Everyone should score so good... ) |
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Troll_Bait
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)
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| Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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| 1. Neo-Pagan (100%) |
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Try clicking on the links that offer more information. You could find out which kind of Neo-Pagan is most suitable for you. Some of the questions are -How shall I put it?- interesting.
e.g.
A: Does your Magick require animal sacrifice?
B: Uh, no.
A: Then "ancient Egyptian" is starting to look like your style.
Who knows? Maybe the Norse gods are your destiny. Think about it. You could be feasting on beer and roast pig in Valhalla's Hall of Heroes with Valkyrie babes instead of  |
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Maserial
Joined: 31 Jul 2005
Location: The Web
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| Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 11:50 pm Post subject: |
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| 1. Neo-Pagan (100%) |
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Try clicking on the links that offer more information. You could find out which kind of Neo-Pagan is most suitable for you. Some of the questions are -How shall I put it?- interesting.
e.g.
A: Does your Magick require animal sacrifice?
B: Uh, no.
A: Then "ancient Egyptian" is starting to look like your style.
Who knows? Maybe the Norse gods are your destiny. Think about it. You could be feasting on beer and roast pig in Valhalla's Hall of Heroes with Valkyrie babes instead of |
I've been giving it some thought*, Troll_Bait, and I think the best plan would be to combine the best aspects of:
 (Are there any negative aspects?)
with
(and possibly , just for good measure)
to create a 'Neo-Pagan' religion that we can both enjoy!
(*No reasonable thought, of course, but that has never hindered me before.) |
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all
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| Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:25 am Post subject: |
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| Satori wrote: |
| Well I was responding both to you and hermes.trismegistus, you I wasn't sure about, but I'm pretty sure hermes.trismegistus is not joking. |
You'd be correct. I've never enjoyed the company of anyone who identified as a secular humanist - which has a striking similarity to logical positivism and fundamentalist materialisms of various persuasions.
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I don't identify as one, the test identifies me as one... |
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hermes.trismegistus
Joined: 08 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 4:37 am Post subject: |
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| I don't identify as one, the test identifies me as one... |
Yes, as I said, I haven't noticed those materialist trappings in your comments, so I wondered about the accuracy about those results.
Namaste. |
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