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Citibank Opens Branch for Korean Americans

 
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Real Reality



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:01 am    Post subject: Citibank Opens Branch for Korean Americans Reply with quote

Citibank Opens New York Branch for Korean Americans
Citibank opened a new outlet in Korea Town in Manhattan, bringing the bank�s full range of products and services to the Korean American neighborhood in New York, Thursday (local time). At 22 West 32nd Street in Manhattan, Citibank celebrated the grand opening of its new branch, where 16 employees fluent in both English and Korean will be stationed to ease difficulties faced by some Korean American customers at American banks.

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Citibank Opens Seoul Branch for Americans and other English speakers in Korea
Citibank opened a new outlet in Seoul ... where 16 employees fluent in both English and Korean will be stationed to ease difficulties faced by some foreign customers at Korean banks....

Citibank Opens New York Branch for Korean Americans
By Kim Sung-jin, Korea Times (June 30, 2006)
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/biz/200606/kt2006063017482911890.htm
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mithridates



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who cares about service in English, just give us a card that works overseas. And everything else. The problem with attempting to cater to foreigners (and the implicit assumption in your posts) is that most businesses assume they need a whole new area completely fluent in English to cater to us before they can help out. No, just the same service as everybody else would be fine.

Korean government opens new snazzy English webpage to cater to foreigners! Great! Do our numbers let us do or sign up for anything online now? No? Well then thanks for nothing. How about keep it in Korean and instead let our numbers work and let us get cards like everybody else? Anybody that cares enough will either speak the language or get a Korean friend. *beep* service in English. I would settle for service.
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flotsam



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mithridates wrote:
Who cares about service in English, just give us a card that works overseas. And everything else. The problem with attempting to cater to foreigners (and the implicit assumption in your posts) is that most businesses assume they need a whole new area completely fluent in English to cater to us before they can help out. No, just the same service as everybody else would be fine.

Korean government opens new snazzy English webpage to cater to foreigners! Great! Do our numbers let us do or sign up for anything online now? No? Well then thanks for nothing. How about keep it in Korean and instead let our numbers work and let us get cards like everybody else? Anybody that cares enough will either speak the language or get a Korean friend. *beep* service in English. I would settle for service.


Wow.

Where is the hearty applause emoticon?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mithridates wrote:
Who cares about service in English, just give us a card that works overseas....
Korean government opens new snazzy English webpage to cater to foreigners! Great! Do our numbers let us do or sign up for anything online now? No? Well then thanks for nothing. How about keep it in Korean and instead let our numbers work and let us get cards like everybody else? Anybody that cares enough will either speak the language or get a Korean friend. *beep* service in English. I would settle for service.

Foreigners Experience Difficulties in Living in Korea
An official in the International Cooperation Division of Seoul City admitted, "The same complaints regarding visas, transportation, education, and environment are raised every year without being solved, due to the lack of cooperation from government agencies involved and their passive attitudes."
by Jae-Dong Yu and Soo-Jung Shin, Donga.com (July 4, 2004)
http://english.donga.com/srv/service.php3?biid=2004070522448

Most Foreign Firms Find Korea Less Than Friendly
Cho Hyeong-rae, Chosun Ilbo (April 24, 2005)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200504/200504240010.html

Foreigners Excluded From Korean Sites
First of all, the vast majority of Korean Web sites have little or no English-language content, which restricts participation to those who can read Korean. More problematic is that non-Korean residents are not allowed to subscribe to most Web sites, including the country�s biggest portals. None of Korea�s top five most popular portals -- Naver, Daum, Nate, Yahoo Korea and Paran -- provides an English-language introduction to people who want to be members. In order to subscribe to the sites, foreigners must learn Korean or enlist the help of Korean friends to fill out tons of personal information required by the portals. Foreigners who are ready to go through the lengthy registration process, however, will be frustrated again to find that the Web portals cannot identify foreign residency numbers.
By Kim Tae-gyu, Korea Times (June 20, 2005)
http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/tech/200506/kt2005062017334312350.htm

http://photo.hankooki.com/gisaphoto/20050620/vnok200506201904541Froeigners2%20copy.jpg
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 8:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it's good that you advocate improvement of service for foreigners in Korea. The one problem I have with your approach is that it is often tied in with bringing more English in, and I think that's a bad idea for two reasons: 1) because it distracts from the more real problem of improving the system and often lets sites / businesses get away with feeling they've made an effort when really all they've done is translate the same less than useful site into English, and 2) most foreigners in Korea aren't from English-speaking countries.

In this chart Chinese are the largest number. 31% of those are Korean-Chinese so we have to take them out of the equation, but even without them it's twice the number of Americans. Also, the rate of increase is much higher. Over 300% for Chinese and only 100% for Americans. Vietnamese are at almost 400% and people from Thailand at 650%. You'll also notice that no other English countries besides the US are even on the chart.


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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

flotsam wrote:
mithridates wrote:
Who cares about service in English, just give us a card that works overseas. And everything else. The problem with attempting to cater to foreigners (and the implicit assumption in your posts) is that most businesses assume they need a whole new area completely fluent in English to cater to us before they can help out. No, just the same service as everybody else would be fine.

Korean government opens new snazzy English webpage to cater to foreigners! Great! Do our numbers let us do or sign up for anything online now? No? Well then thanks for nothing. How about keep it in Korean and instead let our numbers work and let us get cards like everybody else? Anybody that cares enough will either speak the language or get a Korean friend. *beep* service in English. I would settle for service.


Wow.

Where is the hearty applause emoticon?


This one's pretty good:


This other one turned up on the search but I'm really not a fan. Kind of creepy.
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Marley_Doug



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So does this make banking easier(and cheaper)? Or should I stay with my bank here in the states, open a korean account, and wire money to my american bank?

also, do they have citibank atm's everywhere?

thanks
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 7:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Citibank Opens Branch for Korean Americans Reply with quote

Real Reality wrote:
Why not

Citibank Opens Seoul Branch for Americans and other English speakers in Korea
Citibank opened a new outlet in Seoul ... where 16 employees fluent in both English and Korean will be stationed to ease difficulties faced by some foreign customers at Korean banks....


This actually has happened in other places and some that might surprise you. When I lived in Turkey, Garanti Bankasi advertised widely its services for members of the foreign community, promising that in every branch office you walked into anywhere in the country, there would be someone who spoke English available. I found this to be true in every branch I went into in a lot of different places in Turkey. And the quality of English was always high. (One problem with this service was that often employees who spoke good English were stuck in places where they never got to use it just to fulfill the obligation, as one such employee complained to me in a small town in the Aegean hinterlands.)

I agree with Mith, though, that the focus should be providing equal service, rather than on the language requirement. I think that the removal of legal barriers to participation by foreigners in Korean society would encourage companies to provide services in other languages simply because it would be profitable to do so.
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