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Hogwan hell-Here's what's going on with my problems
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stakay



Joined: 16 Jul 2005
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

buymybook wrote:
joyfulgirl wrote:
sorry to hear about your crap situatuon, op

my pay is over 2 weeks late at the moment, with no clear word on when i may ever get paid. so i went to the labour board last week, and they were absolutely useless. they just told me i could file a complaint if my pay was 2 MONTHS late.

so frustrating and depressing.


The person at the Labor Ministry lied to you. Take a tape recorder with you next time and get the person to say the same thing again and then threaten the BASTAR** job if he/she don't help you to the fullest since that is what they get paid to do.

Go with a Korean or ask to speak with the best English speaker there. You must go to the proper Labor Ministry office/location.

Call 1350 on your phone, have ARC card # or passport # ready. Ask the English speaking person to tell you which is the proper office and ask the person to tell you who to see/speak with at that particular office.


I went with Joyfulgirl to the labour board. We did speak to the best English speaker, AND we had our Korean co-worker with us. The labour board (near Dangsan station) said they won't help Joyfulgirl because she isn't finishing up her contract yet, but they will enforce the 14 day rule for me because I am finishing my contract soon. This just doesn't sound right to me, making Joyfulgirl wait for 2 months to put in a partition to claim for wages, but that's what they said. This hogwan isn't even going to last another 2 months.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 2:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get a list of the parents' numbers and a bi-lingual Korean friend. Then you've got a gun you can put to their heads.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The recruiter is on their side.


Thanks for the info. All help is much appreciated.
Oh, and if anyone does work at my school and sees this- the lack of pension and health insurance info is going to be reported- as long as they keep messing with me. That's a promise.
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ChopChaeJoe



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just can't believe that some people let themselves be put through this kind of thing. Just don't teach. Don't come to work. You aren'tdealing with honorable people. You have no responsibilities to them. the contract has been broken. What are you afraid of?
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joyfulgirl



Joined: 05 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 7:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i went to work, but didn't teach much, in depression and anger. so, they've decided i'm a 'bad teacher' and have fired me. or so they've told my co-workers, not me. which is lovely in itself. so, looking for ways to keep myself together and ways to get out of this bloody place. i had such lovely times here. shame to leave this way.

i'm a lover, not a fighter...i dunno what to do with these people. i am overwhelmed. i desperately need the money they owe me.
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ChopChaeJoe



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think your mistake was going to school at all. If they don't pay you, you don't work. You shouldn't do a bad job because they didn't pay you; your work should always reflect the best that you can do.

I had some pay problems with my school (who hasn't) and I did my absolute best every day that the struggle went on. Finally I said that I would not be coming back -- ever. I made sure that the Korean teachers knew that it was not something that I wanted, but that I simply could not tolerate not being paid for my work. They well knew that my work is excellent.

The runaway director was summoned from the depths of hell and the money magically appeared in my bank account, the same money that the director claimed she didn't have. Funny about that.


But keep your head up. Korea isn't a concentration camp. Something good will come of this.

But don't do any more teaching there! Please.
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sadsac



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Gwangwang

PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's tough! You read posts such as this and you understand why so many just pack up and leave. We do what we believe to be the honourable thing, submit a letter of resignation and then are subjected to abuse. There are a lot of good people out there, but unfortunately they are often over shadowed by the mongrels. As I have stated before, in 6 years here I have never provided a letter of release to immigration when applying for a new position. Wylie, it hasn't been easy and you've copped a lot of s#*t, but you leave with your dignity intact. That may not be worth much monetarily, but personally it's worth millions. As other posted have suggested, be passive in your resistance most Koreans don't know how to deal with that. If push comes to shove make a list of people that you are going to report them to and what other steps you are going to take to ensure that they get their just deserts. Best of luck. Smile

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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My family is contacting our US Senators. Can that help, at all?
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since your bosses aren't subject to US law, so probably not. The US embassy also doesn't generally get involved in this sort of case. You'll need to handle this with Korean contacts and according to Korean law.

If I were you, I'd hold a one-man sit-down strike. Show up for work, but tell the boss you aren't there to teach, and park your ass in the teachers' room until you have your pay. And I mean all of it.

They might yell and scream, but hold your ground and keep your calm.

No pay, no work.
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks. I now have two lawyers helping me, thanks to this board. Things are still very tough (they keep piling OT on me, and, "BTW, tomorrow you move to a different apartment"- I was told that last night), but there's "light at the end of the tunnel."
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Octavius Hite



Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys, pay is two weeks late? If mine is 1 day late I don't go to work. I have been payed late 1 time in Korea and it never happened again. We have to put our foot down, its not like they can send you to the DPRK if you fight, just say I won't be in until this is fixed, screw em. You have a passport go back. I really feel for you because so many of my friends have fought this battle but stand up and don't take it, the worst is you go home and become a sandwich artist for a little while.

Public school, public school, public school, public school!
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 4:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First, they withheld my FIRST check- I had nothing. Almost all of my second check went back because my student loan was 3 months behind.

There's been lots of other stuff, too (working on a Korean holiday, etc...)- but the lack of pension and health insurance is illegal. The lawyers have filled me in on my rights and what to do about this obviously broken contract- broken in many, many places.
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Octavius Hite wrote:
Guys, pay is two weeks late? If mine is 1 day late I don't go to work. I have been payed late 1 time in Korea and it never happened again. We have to put our foot down, its not like they can send you to the DPRK if you fight, just say I won't be in until this is fixed, screw em. You have a passport go back. I really feel for you because so many of my friends have fought this battle but stand up and don't take it, the worst is you go home and become a sandwich artist for a little while.

Public school, public school, public school, public school!


China was horrid for being payed late. I handed in my resignation letter once and got things fixed up real quick Wink Anyways, I have been payed 5 days late at my public school once. The old administration person left for another school and the new one came on payday. Really bad on all sides, but I didn't mind too much, my school is good. Still, people shouldn't put up with being payed late easily. I said two weeks, but that is two weeks of me being one massive annoyance.
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 weeks is too long. If they have a regular pay day, as specified in the contract, then they should be able to stick to that. One or two days may be acceptable if the payday falls on a weekend I suppose, but 2 weeks...............?

I don't think so Tim.

That's just opening the door to abuse.
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wowser



Joined: 14 Apr 2004
Location: Kyonggi do

PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:19 pm    Post subject: how's it going? Reply with quote

So, update please, how's it going?
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