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| How much do you like living in Korea? |
| I love it and have no plans to return to my country. |
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10% |
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| I am very happy. I am open to the idea of settling down here. |
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21% |
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| It's been a wonderful experience. Another year or two would be great here. |
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40% |
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| I'm very happy, but there's no place like home. I will return at the end of my contract. |
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8% |
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| How many more weeks before I can leave here? |
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endofthewor1d
Joined: 01 Apr 2003
Location: the end of the wor1d.
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| indytrucks wrote: |
| hermes.trismegistus wrote: |
Otherwise I'd have gone as loopy as the nutters who've been here 10 years.
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PS Is anyone else on the board convinced that Hermes is Satori's/Kiwiboy's sock? Same self-important tone, same structure to his arguments ... how many "assistant professors at the University of Alabama" do you know of use English slang like "loopy" and "nutter"? |
i believe he's not a sock and he's where he says he's from. think about it... if you were trying to come off as the dennis milleresque smart guy on an internet forum, and you're making up a fictional identity, why would you choose alabama of all places to be from? not that i have anything against alabama... it's a lovely place, and the university is said to be an excellent one. but the rest of the state is hardly an intellectual hotbed. if he's willing to admit being from alabama, i, for one, believe him.
also, being a neighbor of his, in mississippi, i know what it's like to have been the only guy in a room who's ever read a book. if you aren't careful, it can start to go to your head. i've caught myself looking down my nose at the locals before, and i might have turned into a full blows HT had i stayed there any longer than i did.
as for the english slang, for a person who travels around a bit, runs into english people here and there, it's not uncommon to pick up slang. |
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rawiri
Joined: 01 Jun 2003
Location: Lovely day for a fire drill.
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| Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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Hermes, looks like it's time for you to be on your way out of here man. If ever it got to the point where i would start crying about being cut in front of in aline or a cab not picking me up, obviously the place is running me down to the point of being a whining little girl and it's probably best to just leave while i still have a minor shred of manhood intact.
As to the not being picked up by a taxi, i remeber a michael moore show where he put danny glover on a street corner in new york trying to flag down a taxi and a white criminal in front of him. The cabbies picked up the white guy every time. |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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| hermes.trismegistus wrote: |
| laogaiguk wrote: |
| This is a good example of your superiority complex. Obviously I don't understand your BA in *beep* lingo. If you were going to debate, you would use normal (or universally understood) English. This post is just arrogance covered with lack of debating skills (if you use language you know your opponent won't know, it is not a debate), and I have no doubt you get everything you deserve from Koreans. If you act like this to us (all the time), it is no wonder Koreans treat you bad. |
So you suggest 'good' debate skills include catering to ignorance?
I disagree.
If you haven't encountered the memes discussed, then your own limited exposure seems more at fault than anything else.
Namaste. |
Sorry, crap isn't my field of expertise. Computer Science is. Want to have a discussion about the problems of rounding (or truncation) errors, I'll stump you with lingo you would never be able to understand.
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Actually, you probably could if you trained like I did. Just like I could easily do whatever BAs you did with very little problem. You have a different field of expertise, and that makes you better?
You are quite wrong, but I wouldn't expect much out of a person such as yourself. You keep thinking you are better than everybody (which you do as much as you like to hide it behind vocabulary) while the rest of us lead useful lives. You are just a boy (sorry, thought you were a girl) with mostly useless degrees outside the realm of academia who quite obviously contributes nothing to the world. Carry on, the world will most definitely get by just fine without you.
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all
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| Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 12:56 am Post subject: |
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| indytrucks wrote: |
PS Is anyone else on the board convinced that Hermes is Satori's/Kiwiboy's sock? Same self-important tone, same structure to his arguments ... how many "assistant professors at the University of Alabama" do you know of use English slang like "loopy" and "nutter"? |
You`re not a very good close reader are you...for me to fake the extensive biblical and philosophical knowledge of hermes would take several years of intense reading, and would bore me silly. Plus, I use ellipses ( I think I`m the only one on the board to do so, for me it expresses the unfinished nature of most comunication ) and he doesn`t ...
Finally, for you to talk about anyone having a "self important tone" is f*cking rich, as that is you stock in trade and your major characteristic... |
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SuperFly
Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: In the doghouse
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| Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 6:13 am Post subject: |
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How do I feel about living in Korea? When I was in Korea I felt like:
I hear the train a comin'; it's rollin' 'round the bend,
And I ain't seen the sunshine since I don't know when.
I'm stuck at Folsom hagwon and time keeps draggin' on.
But that train keeps rollin' on down to Chirri san.
When I was just a baby, my mama told me, "Son,
Always be a good boy; don't ever play with guns."
But I shot a man in chongno, just to watch him die.
When I hear that whistle blowin' I hang my head and cry.
I bet there's rich folk eatin' in a fancy dining car.
They're prob'ly drinkin' coffee and smokin' big cigars,
But I know I had it comin', I know I can't be free,
But those people keep a movin', and that's what tortures me.
Well, if they freed me from this prison, if that railroad train was mine,
I bet I'd move on over a little farther down the line,
Far from Folsom hagwon, that's where I want to stay,
And I'd let that lonesome whistle blow my blues away. |
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skinhead
Joined: 11 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 6:19 am Post subject: |
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How do I feel about living in Korea? When I was in Korea I felt like:
I hear the train a comin'; it's rollin' 'round the bend,
And I ain't seen the sunshine since I don't know when.
I'm stuck at Folsom hagwon and time keeps draggin' on.
But that train keeps rollin' on down to Chirri san.
When I was just a baby, my mama told me, "Son,
Always be a good boy; don't ever play with guns."
But I shot a man in chongno, just to watch him die.
When I hear that whistle blowin' I hang my head and cry.
I bet there's rich folk eatin' in a fancy dining car.
They're prob'ly drinkin' coffee and smokin' big cigars,
But I know I had it comin', I know I can't be free,
But those people keep a movin', and that's what tortures me.
Well, if they freed me from this prison, if that railroad train was mine,
I bet I'd move on over a little farther down the line,
Far from Folsom hagwon, that's where I want to stay,
And I'd let that lonesome whistle blow my blues away. |
Saw that just three days ago. Worthy performances from all involvoed. Incidentally, the only JC I ever heard raisin up was on the Muppet Show ~ Ghost Riders In the Sky. But I gots to know the Man in black since. |
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fiveeagles
Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver
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| Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 7:57 am Post subject: |
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| indytrucks wrote: |
| hermes.trismegistus wrote: |
Otherwise I'd have gone as loopy as the nutters who've been here 10 years.
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I have lived here for nearly 10 years and am neither a nutter nor loopy. But unlike you, TESL/TEFL is my profession. I am qualified and trained in it. One of the perks of my current job is months and months of paid holiday which I have used to travel and do the same things you have. Soon I will move on to different ESL pastures in Europe or North America but not because of my dislike for Korea. Korea is no Utopia, but it has afforded me a very comfortable lifestyle which I have used as a means, but in no way see as an end.
If "generalizations form a fundemental principle of intelligence", your generalization that long-term residents here are loopy or mentally deficient in some way reflects a fundemental principle of your own stunted intelligence.
PS Is anyone else on the board convinced that Hermes is Satori's/Kiwiboy's sock? Same self-important tone, same structure to his arguments ... how many "assistant professors at the University of Alabama" do you know of use English slang like "loopy" and "nutter"? |
Sounds a lot like Grotto as well. |
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mole
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
Location: Act III
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| Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 8:56 am Post subject: |
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| hermes.trismegistus wrote: |
Otherwise I'd have gone as loopy as the nutters who've been here 10 years.
Namaste. |
 ... I guess I'm still OK at only 9.5 years?
Am I pushing my luck? |
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The Man known as The Man
Joined: 29 Mar 2003
Location: 3 cheers for Ted Haggard oh yeah!
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| Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 1:26 pm Post subject: |
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that bag of wind/crap is not kiwiboy
kiwiboy, I like women |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| hermes.trismegistus wrote: |
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I left a position as an assistant prof of undergrad history at the University of Southern Alabama. I've used ESL as a medium for funding global travel. |
Two problems here:
1. There is no university of southern alabama. university of south alabama you mean? please, anyone who worked there wouldn't make that mistake.
2. If you were a professor at a semi-large public university (such as U of south AL), your income would be as good, if not better than your gig in korea. Therefore, your funding argument is a load of BS.
3. Undergrad history? ha ha ha. TA perhaps, but assistant professor just undergrad? sure man. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Satori wrote: |
| indytrucks wrote: |
PS Is anyone else on the board convinced that Hermes is Satori's/Kiwiboy's sock? Same self-important tone, same structure to his arguments ... how many "assistant professors at the University of Alabama" do you know of use English slang like "loopy" and "nutter"? |
You`re not a very good close reader are you...for me to fake the extensive biblical and philosophical knowledge of hermes would take several years of intense reading, and would bore me silly. Plus, I use ellipses ( I think I`m the only one on the board to do so, for me it expresses the unfinished nature of most comunication ) and he doesn`t ...
Finally, for you to talk about anyone having a "self important tone" is f*cking rich, as that is you stock in trade and your major characteristic... |
This is one time I agree with you 100%.
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That pretty much sums it up. |
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jacl
Joined: 31 Oct 2005
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Not too muckin' futch to do here. After sex and eating a homemade or restaurant western dinner that's bland because of too much red pepper paste consumption in past meals... Not too muckin' futch to do here. Nowhere to fish except the goddamned ocean.
Everything is booooooooooooooooring!
People are boring.
Sex is boring.
Playing the guitar is boring.
The highway is boring.
Getting drunk is boring.
Soda's boring
Chips are boring.
Ramien is boring.
Dumplings are boring.
Saving money is boring.
The bus is really boring and you can't even take a leak on it. |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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| The Man known as The Man wrote: |
that bag of wind/crap is not kiwiboy
kiwiboy, I like women |
Here is hermes.trismegistus's blog. He posted it earlier last year I think. Had to find it. I don't think he is a sock, which makes him even more "special" than I thought.
http://ankh-f-n-khonsu.livejournal.com/ |
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indytrucks
Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Location: The Shelf
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| Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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Kiwiboy, I'm sorry. I guess HT isn't a sock.
The two of you should see if you can't meet up, though. You both have a lot in common. |
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hermes.trismegistus
Joined: 08 Sep 2005
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| indytrucks wrote: |
| I have lived here for nearly 10 years and am neither a nutter nor loopy. But unlike you, TESL/TEFL is my profession. I am qualified and trained in it. |
Uncritical assumuptions get you in trouble. I am likewise TEFL/TOEFL certified. I make nothing my profession beyond my growth. I couldn't think of this as a profession because I certainly wouldn't want to be doing this in perpetuity. Different strokes, of course.
| indytrucks wrote: |
| Soon I will move on to different ESL pastures in Europe or North America but not because of my dislike for Korea. |
I taught ESL in Spain and Germany. You might try Spain. Madrid has lots of jobs but difficult-to-find housing, and Bar�a has easy-to-find housing with few jobs. But if you go with some bank until you get things in order, you should find an enjoyable position that pays the bills, but just barely. Wonderful place to take a year 'off', IMO.
| indytrucks wrote: |
| If "generalizations form a fundemental principle of intelligence", your generalization that long-term residents here are loopy or mentally deficient in some way reflects a fundemental principle of your own stunted intelligence. |
I didn't qualify my generalization with 'all', or name anyone specifically. Of course plenty of people have escaped 10, 15 or more years in ESL while maintaining some semblance of sanity. Some never had it to begin with.
Crazy isn't what it used to be.
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| PS Is anyone else on the board convinced that Hermes is Satori's/Kiwiboy's sock? |
I'm confident Satori and I would have many things in common. I'm confident that Satori and I would have many things in uncommon. The same might be said with many, but not most.
| endofthewor1d wrote: |
| as for the english slang, for a person who travels around a bit, runs into english people here and there, it's not uncommon to pick up slang. |
Ugh. Tell me about it. I once visited friends in Florida after several years abroad only to have them insist that I had come back Canadian. 
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| also, being a neighbor of his, in mississippi, i know what it's like to have been the only guy in a room who's ever read a book. |
Quality matters more than quantity. After a certain point you progressively lose the desire to explain basic memes that most curious individuals would've already encountered. If you took the time to spell everything out, you'd have small books. The limitations of communication imprison us.
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| Sorry, crap isn't my field of expertise. Computer Science is. Want to have a discussion about the problems of rounding (or truncation) errors, I'll stump you with lingo you would never be able to understand. |
Exactly! Thankfully I have a large group of global colleagues who read my blog and can help fill in gaps of ignorance, should they become relevant. In the CS dept, I've got several good friends who would love to help: Dr. William Su, assoc prof at the Univ. of Kansas (we met during a Singularity conference); Gabe Conner, audio production team for Apple and CS wiz-kid (we raved for years before going 'professional'). I'm sure I could find a few more, if the question stumped them. In fact, if you enjoy CS-related dialogue, I could probably provide contact info for them.
You see, we all have areas of acquaintance and areas of profound ignorance. I am completely ignorant of a myriad of things. The difference lies in how we accept or address that ignorance. Some things, like CS, I am completely happy with remaining ignorant about. Some things, like memetics, I am not happy with remaining ignorant about. Different priorities lead to difference of accepted ignorance.
| laogaiguk wrote: |
| Carry on, the world will most definitely get by just fine without you. |
Of course. People seldom outlive their ideas.
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| You're not a very good close reader are you...for me to fake [approximation of] hermes would take several years of intense reading, and would bore me silly. |
To be honest, I got bored aplenty too. Ken Wilber, I simply love him, but christ his writing bores the hell out of me. Anyone who thinks me obtuse has obviously never read anything from integralism.
Biblical studies can be boring... The wheel goes round... Sometimes it goes up, sometimes it goes down.
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| 1. There is no university of southern alabama. university of south alabama you mean? please, anyone who worked there wouldn't make that mistake. |
Actually, the last degree I got from USA reads "University of Southern Alabama". I'd have to contact the uni to see if they still do this or if the practice has changed. I could provide links to staff photos, but I don't like to over-personalize impersonal threads in impersonal forums.
| bucheon bum wrote: |
| 2. If you were a professor at a semi-large public university (such as U of south AL), your income would be as good, if not better than your gig in korea. Therefore, your funding argument is a load of BS. |
I didn't say I left for more money. However, assoc profs don't make that much in the Deep South. Starting salaries are usually around $25,000/year. A full prof will make a bit more, but most department heads were making under $40,000 a year.
| bucheon bum wrote: |
| 3. Undergrad history? ha ha ha. TA perhaps, but assistant professor just undergrad? sure man. |
The sign on the door read "assistant professor of undergrad history". That seemed good enough to me. I wasn't qualified for teaching graduate history.
| laogaiguk wrote: |
| Here is hermes.trismegistus's blog. He posted it earlier last year I think. Had to find it. I don't think he is a sock, which makes him even more "special" than I thought. |
You'd have to scroll back a page or two to get to any substantial posts. The WC has eaten me for the past few weeks. 
I really hate to personalize content in such a venue [it seems inappropriate and childish], so I will not make further statements regarding personal affiliations.
Namaste. |
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