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tzechuk

Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:21 am Post subject: Shut up your mouth |
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is what a parent accused me of saying yesterday when she came into my class for about 5 seconds amid chaos.
We had just finished the review part of the book and were getting organised for the next unit. Some kids were standing as they (2 mothers) walked in and I asked them (the kids) to sit down.
May be it's my British accent but how they could have managed to hear I said *shut up your mouth* instead of *sit down quickly please* is beyond my imagination.
My head teacher said that the mother who complained spoke English and I responded by saying that anyone who speaks any English would know that *shut up your mouth* is not strictly grammatically correct and is very awkward. A *real*, *native* speaker would not have said it.
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alabamaman
Joined: 25 Apr 2006
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:23 am Post subject: Re: Shut up your mouth |
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tzechuk wrote: |
is what a parent accused me of saying yesterday when she came into my class for about 5 seconds amid chaos.
We had just finished the review part of the book and were getting organised for the next unit. Some kids were standing as they (2 mothers) walked in and I asked them to sit down.
May be it's my British accent but how they could have managed to hear I said *shut up your mouth* instead of *sit down quickly please* is beyond my imagination.
My head teacher said that the mother who complained spoke English and I responded by saying that anyone who speaks any English would know that *shut up your mouth* is not strictly grammatically correct and is very awkward. A *real*, *native* speaker would not have said it. |
Her painties are twisted in a knot. They shoudn't be walking into your class. Parents should stay out of the classroom. Express that to your director when there's no staff and students around. I don't know your director, but sometimes hagown owners love to make a scence in front of others to gain control. Next time they do it, walk out of your class and take the conversation outside. Advise the director of the situation and go back into class. They care about making the money and will do anything to smooth over an explosive situation. |
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poof
Joined: 23 May 2005
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:39 am Post subject: |
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It's unfortunate if it turns into a parent said this vs a teacher says this incident. I've seen some terrible arguments between parents and even the Korean teachers about something that was thought to have happened to their Little Johnny in class. There's often little you can do about it.
Next, they'll be a drive to get microphones installed into the classroom alongside those video cameras.
Is there any way that the kids would have heard what you said? Is there any way you can use them to tell the director what was really said to prove yourself in the right? |
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Dan The Chainsawman

Joined: 05 May 2005
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:43 am Post subject: |
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As of now it really does not matter what you did or didn't say. It would be a loss of face for the parents to admit they are wrong. |
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tomato

Joined: 31 Jan 2003 Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:06 am Post subject: |
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That's a new one on me.
I've heard students say "Shut up mouth" and "Shut up talking," though. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 4:02 am Post subject: |
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That really bites.
Ask your husband about a good way to address the issue. You don't want to let it slide. You don't want a parent believing it or spreading it around, either.
There must be some polite, diplomatic way to get the message across that the mother misunderstood what she thought she heard.
Maybe something like: "Ahhh...I understand what she thought she heard. I was saying 'shhhhhhh now, kids' and she thought I said..." I hope this isn't a problem, Mr. Director.
Good luck. (If all else fails, there is always the Mafia...they hang out at the Yusong Hotel 목욕탕.) |
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tzechuk

Joined: 20 Dec 2004
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 4:18 am Post subject: |
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I don't work in a hagwon. I work at a school after school programme. It is beginning to suck because not only do we have the company that runs the programme to answer to, we also have the school to answer to....so it's like doubling the stress, really.
According to the HT, the mother wasn't actually very sure herself and she thought she heard that was what I said... sigh...
Well, they said they will visit again but next time they will inform us well ahead of time instead of springing a surprise on us.. so the HT said that I can change their perception, then.
In the meantime, another mother came to me and told me what she heard and thought it was silly. I teach her son, she said her son has absolutely no complaints about me and likes me a lot, in fact, despite me being quite strict with them.. so she told me not to worry about it.. Doesn't exactly make me feel any better, cos I just hate accusations..
Oh well.. we'll see what goes on. I only know for sure that I never tell children to *shut up* or *shut up the mouth*. |
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alabamaman
Joined: 25 Apr 2006
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 4:24 am Post subject: |
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tzechuk wrote: |
I don't work in a hagwon. I work at a school after school programme. It is beginning to suck because not only do we have the company that runs the programme to answer to, we also have the school to answer to....so it's like doubling the stress, really.
According to the HT, the mother wasn't actually very sure herself and she thought she heard that was what I said... sigh...
Well, they said they will visit again but next time they will inform us well ahead of time instead of springing a surprise on us.. so the HT said that I can change their perception, then.
In the meantime, another mother came to me and told me what she heard and thought it was silly. I teach her son, she said her son has absolutely no complaints about me and likes me a lot, in fact, despite me being quite strict with them.. so she told me not to worry about it.. Doesn't exactly make me feel any better, cos I just hate accusations..
Oh well.. we'll see what goes on. I only know for sure that I never tell children to *shut up* or *shut up the mouth*. |
Drink a fifth of Jack with the parents outside of the school next time. Everyones happy, and they have no complaints  |
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Captain Corea

Joined: 28 Feb 2005 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 4:29 am Post subject: |
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tzechuk wrote: |
Well, they said they will visit again but next time they will inform us well ahead of time instead of springing a surprise on us.. so the HT said that I can change their perception, then. |
Lucky you. Now you get to have that uncomfortable next meeting to look forward to. |
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alabamaman
Joined: 25 Apr 2006
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 4:32 am Post subject: |
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Captain Corea wrote: |
tzechuk wrote: |
Well, they said they will visit again but next time they will inform us well ahead of time instead of springing a surprise on us.. so the HT said that I can change their perception, then. |
Lucky you. Now you get to have that uncomfortable next meeting to look forward to. |
Tzechuk ask them if they want some candy. If they say yes pass them 2mg of Ativan. |
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 4:36 am Post subject: |
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Funny, when I first got to my school, my teachers warned me not to hit the students on the head. Pretty much everything else was fair game Obviously, I decided on using my own forms of punishment. which are a little less physical. |
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Grotto

Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:30 am Post subject: |
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Maybe she's not really Korean....maybe she's Italian
Hey Luigi, shut up you mouth! |
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ttompatz

Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:43 pm Post subject: |
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Grotto wrote: |
Maybe she's not really Korean....maybe she's Italian
Hey Luigi, shut up you mouth! |
Wouldn't that make it, "Hey Luigi, shut upa you mouth!" |
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Grotto

Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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true but if she is Korean shouldnt it be
Shutee upee youee mouthee! |
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Col.Brandon

Joined: 09 Aug 2004 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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There was a song in the charts in Australia and NZ the 70s called, "Shut uppa your face" by Joe Dolce, an Italian Australian. You can probably download it somewhere if you look around. Does anyone remember it? |
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