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Britain's descent into Dhimmitude
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desultude



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf

PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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when in Rome ...


Wear white sheets, or is it brown shirts?
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Wrench



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gopher wrote:
rapier wrote:
mithridates wrote:
I might even change citizenship if I feel like it, either to Korean or Japanese.


Just like that? Is it that easy? How would you go about it exactly?


As far as I know, neither of those two countries are especially excited about immigrants. But where there's a will, there's a way.

Mith, I'm sure you're much better off with Canadian citizenship than Korean. (Not so sure about Japan.) In any case, it occurs to me that you must have already done your homework and have already thought this out (including the long-term consequences), and it's clear you're compatible with this part of the world, so I'll wish you the best of luck, if that's what you do.


Why not let him.

Also you have to realize that you get blacklisted in the previous country of citizenship, and geting re-entry permission will be a bitch. Good luck trying to ever visit Canada again.
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Wangja



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 11:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why not let him.

Also you have to realize that you get blacklisted in the previous country of citizenship, and geting re-entry permission will be a *beep*. Good luck trying to ever visit Canada again.


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bigverne



Joined: 12 May 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you didn't laugh, you'd cry. Here is some Muslim 'integration' in action. Apparently, infidels and their culture are so repellent, that a special day has to be created so that our Islamic friends can go to the theme park sans kuffar.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006300314,00.html

BRITAIN�S biggest fun park has sparked a race row � with a MUSLIMS-ONLY day.

Up to 28,000 are expected at Alton Towers on September 17 when there will be no music, booze or gambling.

Instead there will be prayer areas, Muslim stalls and all food served will be HALAL.

Organisers Islamic Leisure have billed it the First National Muslim Fun Day and tickets can only be bought through their website.

Non-Muslims phoning the Staffordshire park have been refused tickets.

One, George Hughes, 19, who rang up for 15 tickets for a pal�s birthday, said: �I couldn�t believe it.

�It�s the only day we can go, yet I can�t because I�m not Muslim. Can you imagine all the fuss if there was a Christians-only day?�

George, of Crayford, Kent, added: �My Muslim friends think it�s outrageous.

�What�s the world coming to when people are being banned from flying the St George�s flag yet this sort of day is allowed? If it must be held, then why not on a weekday rather than a busy weekend?�

The event is widely promoted on the internet and the Muslim Public Affairs Committee declared it �exclusively for our brothers and sisters�.

This is an organisation that consistently moans about Islamophobia.

But some Muslims have condemned the idea. One university student on a Muslim website forum said: �It�s hardly encouraging integration.�

Another said: �What next . . . an all Muslims shopping day out in the Trafford Centre in Manchester?�

Abid Hussan of Islamic Leisure insisted the day was open to all faiths, although Islamic laws would apply.

He added: �There will be no smoking, no alcohol and halal food only.

�We�re trying to get Muslims to go to this day because they wouldn�t normally go somewhere like Alton Towers. We�re trying to integrate Muslims into the wider community. People can come down and see the way we live. It will be a peaceful family environment.�

Trying to 'integrate Muslims' by creating a day at a national theme park specifically for Muslims.

Alton Towers said any organisation could hire the park for a day.

A spokeswoman said �We make no distinction regarding sexuality, religious, ethnic or lifestyle choices.�

She confirmed tickets for the day were now available only through Islamic Leisure. And Alton Towers would promote the fact that the day had been booked.

She added: �As a general rule, there will be no admission on the day to guests who have not booked through the organisation in advance.�


God bless multiculturalism.
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bigverne wrote:
If you didn't laugh, you'd cry. Here is some Muslim 'integration' in action. Apparently, infidels and their culture are so repellent, that a special day has to be created so that our Islamic friends can go to the theme park sans kuffar.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006300314,00.html

BRITAIN�S biggest fun park has sparked a race row � with a MUSLIMS-ONLY day.

Up to 28,000 are expected at Alton Towers on September 17 when there will be no music, booze or gambling.

Instead there will be prayer areas, Muslim stalls and all food served will be HALAL.

Organisers Islamic Leisure have billed it the First National Muslim Fun Day and tickets can only be bought through their website.

Non-Muslims phoning the Staffordshire park have been refused tickets.

One, George Hughes, 19, who rang up for 15 tickets for a pal�s birthday, said: �I couldn�t believe it.

�It�s the only day we can go, yet I can�t because I�m not Muslim. Can you imagine all the fuss if there was a Christians-only day?�

George, of Crayford, Kent, added: �My Muslim friends think it�s outrageous.

�What�s the world coming to when people are being banned from flying the St George�s flag yet this sort of day is allowed? If it must be held, then why not on a weekday rather than a busy weekend?�

The event is widely promoted on the internet and the Muslim Public Affairs Committee declared it �exclusively for our brothers and sisters�.

This is an organisation that consistently moans about Islamophobia.

But some Muslims have condemned the idea. One university student on a Muslim website forum said: �It�s hardly encouraging integration.�

Another said: �What next . . . an all Muslims shopping day out in the Trafford Centre in Manchester?�

Abid Hussan of Islamic Leisure insisted the day was open to all faiths, although Islamic laws would apply.

He added: �There will be no smoking, no alcohol and halal food only.

�We�re trying to get Muslims to go to this day because they wouldn�t normally go somewhere like Alton Towers. We�re trying to integrate Muslims into the wider community. People can come down and see the way we live. It will be a peaceful family environment.�

Trying to 'integrate Muslims' by creating a day at a national theme park specifically for Muslims.

Alton Towers said any organisation could hire the park for a day.

A spokeswoman said �We make no distinction regarding sexuality, religious, ethnic or lifestyle choices.�

She confirmed tickets for the day were now available only through Islamic Leisure. And Alton Towers would promote the fact that the day had been booked.

She added: �As a general rule, there will be no admission on the day to guests who have not booked through the organisation in advance.�


God bless multiculturalism.


Wow!
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bigverne



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And more cultural suicide by one of the most pathetic organisations on earth, the Church of England. How about standing up for Christian values and our English cultural heritage? Nope, let's erase anything from our culture that offends a certain group of people. Guess which group that might be?

Rowan Williams must be reading that new paperback - "How to increase support for the BNP in 10 Easy Steps"

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=393651&in_page_id=1770&in_page_id=1770&expand=true

Will George be slayed as England's patron saint?

By STEVE DOUGHTY, Daily Mail

His dragon-slaying heroics have kept his legend alive through the centuries.

But the Church of England is considering rejecting England's patron saint St George on the grounds that his image is too warlike and may offend Muslims.

Clergy have started a campaign to replace George with St Alban, a Christian martyr in Roman Britain.

The scheme, to be considered by the Church's parliament, the General Synod, has met a cautious but sympathetic response from senior bishops.

But it clashes with the increasing popularity of the saint and his flag in England. The World Cup brought out millions of St George crosses as the symbol became increasingly mainstream and less frequently dismissed as a badge favoured only by far-Right political activists.

If St Alban replaced St George, the red cross on a white background would have to be replaced as England's flag by Alban's symbol, a diagonal yellow cross on a blue background that bears a strong similarity to St Andrew's cross, the flag of Scotland.

The proposal has been put forward by the Rev Philip Chester, vicar of St Matthew's, Westminster, who has called the use of St George as patron saint 'dotty'.

His call for a change is based on the lack of firm historical evidence that George - said to be a Roman general from the 4th century AD who was put to death by Emperor Diocletian for professing Christianity - ever existed.

He said: 'We are sure St Alban is a real figure. What's more, he lived in this country.'

Archbishop of Canterbury Dr Rowan Williams indicated support for an upgrade for Alban, although he is said to be cautious about relegation for George.

He told the Sunday Times: 'I think St Alban is irreplaceable in the history of English Christianity. Perhaps we ought to raise his profile because it's the beginning of the church in this country with martyrdom, wisdom and courage.'

The image of St George was used to foster patriotism in 1940, when King George VI inaugurated the George Cross for civilian acts of the greatest bravery. The medal bears a depiction of the saint slaying the dragon.

However, George has become unfashionable among politicians and bureaucrats. His saint's day, April 23, has no official celebration in England, and councils have banned the St George flag from their buildings and vehicles during the World Cup.

The saint became an English hero during the crusades against the Muslim armies that captured Jerusalem in the 11th century.

An apparition of George is said to have appeared to the crusader army at the Battle of Antioch in 1098.

His dragon-slaying legend is thought to have begun as an allegory of Diocletian's persecution of Christians.

Alban was martyred in 304 AD on the site of St Albans abbey in the Hertfordshire city that now bears his name.

A Roman army officer, he was said to have converted after sheltering a Christian.
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ddeubel



Joined: 20 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And more cultural suicide by one of the most pathetic organisations on earth, the Church of England. How about standing up for Christian values and our English cultural heritage? Nope, let's erase anything from our culture that offends a certain group of people. Guess which group that might be?


People who are so insecure of their own cultural heritage are generally very susceptible to that phenomena known as "bigotry" -- propping their self worth up at the expense of others RATHER than loving and allowing others to be as they wish.

So much for freedom and tolerance......

DD
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bigverne



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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People who are so insecure of their own cultural heritage are generally very susceptible to that phenomena known as "bigotry" -- propping their self worth up at the expense of others RATHER than loving and allowing others to be as they wish.


More meaningless liberal blather from the king of the vague platitude.

What has 'loving and allowing other to be as they wish' got to do with getting rid of St.George as England's patron saint?
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Wangja



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I imagine the whole place can be rented for the day. Probably some companies or associations - maybe even other religious groups - have already done this.

I think the Daily Mail (?) is reading more into this than it warrants.
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tiger fancini



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bigverne wrote:
�We�re trying to get Muslims to go to this day because they wouldn�t normally go somewhere like Alton Towers.


What a load of shite! I know plenty of Muslim people from Birmingham who go there all the time. When I've been, I 've seen people who I assume are Muslims. This is a ridiculous statement Twisted Evil
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bigverne



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thought I'd ressurect this old thread.

More pathetic kowtowing to Mohammedanism.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/somerset/8171151.stm

Muslims welcome police scarf move
Avon and Somerset Police is issuing head coverings to its female officers so they can enter mosques.

The force says the move will help its officers respect Muslim religious customs while carrying out their job.

The garments, designed to match the force's uniform, were designed in consultation with Muslim groups.

Imam Rashad Azami, of Bath, said: "This will go a long way in encouraging a trustful relationship between the police and the Muslim community."

Mr Azami, director of Bath Islamic Society, said: "The police have been working closely with the Muslim community in the area on many levels for the last few years."

There are two versions of the head coverings, to match the black of a police officer's uniform and the blue of the Police Community Support Officer uniforms.

Both carry the force's crest.


So, when there is a clash between British and Muslim cultural norms, it is clear which ones must take precedence.
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Sergio Stefanuto



Joined: 14 May 2009
Location: UK

PostPosted: Mon Jul 27, 2009 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I posted this elsewhere yesterday, but it's probably better here:

Sergio Stefanuto wrote:
Pat Condell's latest vid is his best ever, IMO:

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Politically, I used to always be on the liberal Left, because I used to believe in things like social justice, tolerance, respect - you know, the good things in life? I still believe in those things, which is why I'm no longer on the liberal Left.

I believe that, in alligning itself as it has so completely with the fascism of Islam, and in colluding with an ideology that wants to victimize minorities and kill people for their lifestyle, the liberal Left has lost its way, lost its moral authority and become a threat to our freedom. The medicine has become the disease.


http://patcondell.net/ (8min 30sec)
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