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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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 Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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| antoniothegreat wrote: |
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i would just say, if you dont want to go, accidentally get lost on the way. the odds are they will give you directions in korean...
last year we had a stupid meeting in suwon, i live 2 hours from there, the meeting started at 2, and was supposed to end at 6, the last bus to my town was at 6 as well, they gave me a sheet saying where to go that was written in korean. well, i just couldnt get the taxi driver to find the place, so i couldnt go... so sad.
someone else said this, really, what can they do? and if you do go, pocket a few shirts for your trouble... |
I'm going with my supervisor, so I can't use the excuse that I got lost.
What can they do? Not renew your contract...and I have a really good relationship with this school...it's a shame GEPIK has to do its best to ruin it. |
(1) I would hope they would not refuse to renew your contract simply because of one thing. that would be sad.
(2) i am curious though... has anyone been teaching any material that will be relavent to this camp? i dont teach elementary school, but i am just curious how a bunch of little kids that speak almost no english are supposed to be able to buy t-shirts and talk to a police officer.
(3) When exactly is this camp as well? because if it is after 5 pm, dont they have to pay you some kind of overtime? i imagine this would be included in our contracts, but they must provide/compensate for transportation and overtime work. right?
(4) lastly, does anyone know who planned this thing? i can understand they want foreigners for the cultural part, but i wonder if somehow this is going to get messed up in a way only Koreans know how. Like lots of little things that they assume the rest of the world is like Korea? will they order small size shirts instead of small? at lunch will there be a section for boys and girls (because obviously all countries seperate the sexes) and lastly, will the kids actually speak english, or will they just say "티셔트 주세요. 비그 사이즈" and then laugh and run away???
that being sayed, thank god i dont have to do this...thank god i am not in EPIK/GEPIK |
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1. I was told that GEPIK would look very "unfavourably on foreigners" who failed to show up. Since I really like where I am working, I'd rather not rock the boat unless it was a clear violation of the contract.
2. In Grades 4-6 at my school we've done stuff like this. Though it remains to be seen if the children will remember it.
3. Heck no. If it were after 5 PM I wouldn't show up. It's taking place during regular school hours.
4. It quite likely will get messed up. Whenever a government involves itself in anything it tends to work far less efficiently than it would otherwise. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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I was a teaching assistant back home and if the departmental chair had ever asked me to take my students to an English literature fair and sell T-shirts I would have said 'no that's ridiculous', even if it meant four hours less work.
...is not culturally relative. |
I was a teacher back home and if the principal had ever asked me to take some of my students on a overnight trip I would have said "no way" And that would go double for a week long field trip to another country.
I guess we have different interpretations on what a "spine" means. |
Would that be a) agreeing to do things one likes to do vs. b) agreeing to do things that are tacky and demeaning and only demanded of foreigners? |
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ajgeddes
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan
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| Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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Well, I just got an update on the whole situation, and like I predicted, I got it at 4PM on Wednesday (although, I think I said it would be 4:30PM).
I was told to wear a white shirt tomorrow, however, they didn't say a t-shirt or jeans. However, I think people can stop complaining about double standards because all the Korean teachers are ALSO supposed to wear a white shirt. So, some people can stop whining now because we are being treated the same. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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| ajgeddes wrote: |
Well, I just got an update on the whole situation, and like I predicted, I got it at 4PM on Wednesday (although, I think I said it would be 4:30PM).
I was told to wear a white shirt tomorrow, however, they didn't say a t-shirt or jeans. However, I think people can stop complaining about double standards because all the Korean teachers are ALSO supposed to wear a white shirt. So, some people can stop whining now because we are being treated the same. |
Wear a white collared shirt with a tie, then, and proper shoes and trousers. |
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ajgeddes
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan
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| Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| ajgeddes wrote: |
Well, I just got an update on the whole situation, and like I predicted, I got it at 4PM on Wednesday (although, I think I said it would be 4:30PM).
I was told to wear a white shirt tomorrow, however, they didn't say a t-shirt or jeans. However, I think people can stop complaining about double standards because all the Korean teachers are ALSO supposed to wear a white shirt. So, some people can stop whining now because we are being treated the same. |
Wear a white collared shirt with a tie, then, and proper shoes and trousers. |
I am just going to wear the same thing I wear everyday, which is a nice polo shirt tucked into khaki's. |
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zappadelta
Joined: 31 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:35 am Post subject: |
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Actually, you will be lucky if they say this. A lot of them will say "티셔츠 줘." |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye
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| Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:17 am Post subject: |
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I'm going in an armani suit with minders to keep the kids off me. If any say "helloooo" they get shot on sight. I'm not going to do anything. I refuse to speak English, in fact... and i'm going to go home before I even get there.
That'll show em. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:42 am Post subject: |
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
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I was a teaching assistant back home and if the departmental chair had ever asked me to take my students to an English literature fair and sell T-shirts I would have said 'no that's ridiculous', even if it meant four hours less work.
...is not culturally relative. |
I was a teacher back home and if the principal had ever asked me to take some of my students on a overnight trip I would have said "no way" And that would go double for a week long field trip to another country.
I guess we have different interpretations on what a "spine" means. |
Would that be a) agreeing to do things one likes to do vs. b) agreeing to do things that are tacky and demeaning and only demanded of foreigners? |
If (a)= agreeing to work four hours for eight hours pay and (b)=taking my students on a overnight trip well then yes. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 2:43 am Post subject: |
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| ajgeddes wrote: |
| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| ajgeddes wrote: |
Well, I just got an update on the whole situation, and like I predicted, I got it at 4PM on Wednesday (although, I think I said it would be 4:30PM).
I was told to wear a white shirt tomorrow, however, they didn't say a t-shirt or jeans. However, I think people can stop complaining about double standards because all the Korean teachers are ALSO supposed to wear a white shirt. So, some people can stop whining now because we are being treated the same. |
Wear a white collared shirt with a tie, then, and proper shoes and trousers. |
I am just going to wear the same thing I wear everyday, which is a nice polo shirt tucked into khaki's. |
Good on you. Same here. |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 3:00 am Post subject: |
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| ajgeddes wrote: |
I am just going to wear the same thing I wear everyday, which is a nice polo shirt tucked into khaki's. |
Dress like a refuse collector if you must.
I'll be in a shirt, tie and pants. |
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Grotto
Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:40 am Post subject: |
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so did anyone go?
How good/bad was it? |
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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:54 am Post subject: |
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so did anyone go?
How good/bad was it? |
Maybe it was all a ruse. maybe they were just collecting the foriegn ellement? |
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ajgeddes
Joined: 28 Apr 2004
Location: Yongsan
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| Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 6:03 am Post subject: |
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| It tomorrow and Friday. |
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antoniothegreat
Joined: 28 Aug 2005
Location: Yangpyeong
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| Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 8:07 am Post subject: |
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| zappadelta wrote: |
Actually, you will be lucky if they say this. A lot of them will say "티셔츠 줘." |
do you actually have kids say this? sometimes mine do, and i stare at them with a pissed look until they correct themselves. |
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zappadelta
Joined: 31 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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| antoniothegreat wrote: |
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Actually, you will be lucky if they say this. A lot of them will say "티셔츠 줘." |
do you actually have kids say this? sometimes mine do, and i stare at them with a pissed look until they correct themselves. |
So do I, but there will be kids from many schools there with foreign teachers that probably don't do that. |
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