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tiger fancini
Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Location: Testicles for Eyes
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1. The Stone Roses
2. The Beatles (yawn, I know, but its how I feel)
3. I am the resurection
4. Something |
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PaperTiger
Joined: 31 May 2005
Location: Ulaanbataar
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| Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Hmm, you may have to admit that the Stone Roses best song is "This Is the One". Some LSD, this song, and high quality headphones will open your head big time. |
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tiger fancini
Joined: 21 Mar 2006
Location: Testicles for Eyes
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| Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Hmm, you may have to admit that the Stone Roses best song is "This Is the One". Some LSD, this song, and high quality headphones will open your head big time. |
Understood, but I still think 'resurection' is ultimately better... And I mean the proper version, not the cut-to-three-and-a-half-minutes
radio-friendly job. |
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Woland
Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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Favorite band right now: Mor ve Otesi
Best of all time: The Beatles (I mean, really! Is there another option?)
Favorite Mor ve Otesi song: Dunya Yalan Soyluyor
Favorite Beatles Song: Very hard to narrow this down, but I'll go with Day Tripper |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul
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| Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Woland wrote: |
Favorite band right now: Mor ve Otesi
Best of all time: The Beatles (I mean, really! Is there another option?)
Favorite Mor ve Otesi song: Dunya Yalan Soyluyor
Favorite Beatles Song: Very hard to narrow this down, but I'll go with Day Tripper |
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Absolutely! Pink Floyd! |
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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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| SPINOZA wrote: |
| Woland wrote: |
Favorite band right now: Mor ve Otesi
Best of all time: The Beatles (I mean, really! Is there another option?)
Favorite Mor ve Otesi song: Dunya Yalan Soyluyor
Favorite Beatles Song: Very hard to narrow this down, but I'll go with Day Tripper |
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Absolutely! Pink Floyd! |
Yikes! Really? Explain yourself, Sir. |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul
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| Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:00 pm Post subject: |
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The Floyd have done it all.....classical (Atom Heart Mother), acoustic (Meddle), electronica (Wish you were here), blues (Money), metal ('Run like Hell' off of 'The Wall'), punk (The Nile Song), Psychedelia (Syd Barrett era), dark spacerock Psychedelia (Saucerful of Secrets)...they've got an outstanding lyricist, a guitarist who's an all-time great and concentrates on the song and tunes rather than showing off, an excellent piano/keys player (not over-used, but used perfectly when used), a drummer with a totally distinctive style, and Gilmour/Wright/Waters sound great when they sing together on those huge Meddle/Dark Side of the Moon melodies. And their stuff is packed full of emotion and atmosphere, which is what it's all about.
The Floyd have done it all. I love the Beatles, but only Floyd can say they've clearly and directly influenced genres as varied as Metal and techno. |
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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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| SPINOZA wrote: |
The Floyd have done it all.....classical (Atom Heart Mother), acoustic (Meddle), electronica (Wish you were here), blues (Money), metal ('Run like Hell' off of 'The Wall'), punk (The Nile Song), Psychedelia (Syd Barrett era), dark spacerock Psychedelia (Saucerful of Secrets)...they've got an outstanding lyricist, a guitarist who's an all-time great and concentrates on the song and tunes rather than showing off, an excellent piano/keys player (not over-used, but used perfectly when used), a drummer with a totally distinctive style, and Gilmour/Wright/Waters sound great when they sing together on those huge Meddle/Dark Side of the Moon melodies. And their stuff is packed full of emotion and atmosphere, which is what it's all about.
The Floyd have done it all. I love the Beatles, but only Floyd can say they've clearly and directly influenced genres as varied as Metal and techno. |
That's fair. I just think they haven't got what the Beatles do on a very basic level of appeal, but my fave is Radiohead so I can't really say a thing about esoteric attempts at genre-bending/breaking/bouncing about. And hell, if basic appeal mattered at all there would be a few more votes for Brittney up there. |
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Woland
Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:00 am Post subject: |
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| SPINOZA wrote: |
| Woland wrote: |
Favorite band right now: Mor ve Otesi
Best of all time: The Beatles (I mean, really! Is there another option?)
Favorite Mor ve Otesi song: Dunya Yalan Soyluyor
Favorite Beatles Song: Very hard to narrow this down, but I'll go with Day Tripper |
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Absolutely! Pink Floyd! |
| SPINOZA wrote: |
The Floyd have done it all.....classical (Atom Heart Mother), acoustic (Meddle), electronica (Wish you were here), blues (Money), metal ('Run like Hell' off of 'The Wall'), punk (The Nile Song), Psychedelia (Syd Barrett era), dark spacerock Psychedelia (Saucerful of Secrets)...they've got an outstanding lyricist, a guitarist who's an all-time great and concentrates on the song and tunes rather than showing off, an excellent piano/keys player (not over-used, but used perfectly when used), a drummer with a totally distinctive style, and Gilmour/Wright/Waters sound great when they sing together on those huge Meddle/Dark Side of the Moon melodies. And their stuff is packed full of emotion and atmosphere, which is what it's all about.
The Floyd have done it all. I love the Beatles, but only Floyd can say they've clearly and directly influenced genres as varied as Metal and techno. |
Interesting argument, Spinoza. From how you've put it, the comparison of The Beatles and Pink Floyd is a bit of a hedgehog and fox comparison.
The Beatles did one thing - pop music (overlapping with rock) - but did it better than any band in history (and to more widely recognized social importance).
Pink Floyd has done a wider range of stuff and very well, but you can't really say that they were as dominant in any of those areas as The Beatles were in pop/rock.
In short, they aren't really comparable, except that they were bands. And so it comes down to a matter of taste. I'll stick with the Beatles for a few reasons, all products of my personal tastes. First, my general musical preference is the pop/rock genre they dominate. Second, they were so consistently good. With the exceptions of Mr. Moonlight and Revolution #9, every song they made is not just listenable, but memorable (= sticks in the head); I can't say the same for Pink Floyd, though I like a lot of their stuff.
Just based on this second criterion, I would rank The Kinks above Pink Floyd. But, again, this is a reflection of my tastes. And the variation in tastes is what makes threads like this interesting.
Odd side note: Mor ve Otesi, which I list as my current favorite band, have obviously been influenced in places by Pink Floyd; it was one of the first things I noticed about them. But I wouldn't say it is a sole or overwhelmingly strong influence. The harmonies MvO employ are often like The Beatles, though. |
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eamo
Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:21 am Post subject: |
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| I would rank The Kinks above Pink Floyd |
oooooh! Good taste there.
The Kinks are officially the most underrated band of the 60's. Their songwriting quality, musicianship and influence were never fully recognized. They invented Heavy Metal you know?!!! |
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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:11 am Post subject: |
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| I would rank The Kinks above Pink Floyd |
oooooh! Good taste there.
The Kinks are officially the most underrated band of the 60's. Their songwriting quality, musicianship and influence were never fully recognized. They invented Heavy Metal you know?!!! |
Woland occasionally comes off as an educated, discriminating, levelheaded, hip chap; but it's all a bloody charade...  |
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Woland
Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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| The Kinks are officially the most underrated band of the 60's. Their songwriting quality, musicianship and influence were never fully recognized. They invented Heavy Metal you know?!!! |
Yeah - All Day and All of the Night, You Really Got Me. But having listened to Dave Davies' solo album, it's probably a good thing that others have taken it over.
I agree that The Kinks are vastly underrated. But they are appreciated by the discerning. One of my current favorite solo performers, John Wesley Harding has written a response to Waterloo Sunset, called In Paradise, that gives a picture of what may have happened with Terry and Julie thirty years on. He also pays a little tribute to Ray Davies in his song A Fan Speaks:
I met Ray Davies in a Danish airport
Turned out to be a real nice guy
He said "Keep writing your songs, man
As long as you can"
And I think that was good advice
But actually he didn't quite say that
I added that word "man"
I'm just following his good words
But of course I'm a very big fan
And I was just trying to make this thing scan
I met many a famous person
I'm not gonna drop any names
Sure, I did mention Ray
When I started to play
But that's cos he is a credit to fame...
Okay, enough wandering off topic... |
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Woland
Joined: 10 May 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Woland occasionally comes off as an educated, discriminating, levelheaded, hip chap; but it's all a bloody charade... |
Apologies to all for the 'roid rage last night. What did I post?
(Okay, now that's enough off topic!) |
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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Woland wrote: |
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| Woland occasionally comes off as an educated, discriminating, levelheaded, hip chap; but it's all a bloody charade... |
Apologies to all for the 'roid rage last night. What did I post?
(Okay, now that's enough off topic!) |
Haha and fair enough.
But this thread isn't generating as much interest as I thought it would(and should) and there is a lot of agreement between the posters(the Beatles non-controversy) so I respectfully suggest to the OP that we be allowed to add our favorite dark horse honorable mention. Not necessarily a "best" band or a great band or our favorite band but a band that maybe we don't know as well as the greats or our favorite, but we just damn like.
Mine would be: Neutral Milk Hotel(or maybe The Arcade Fire), both of whom I only discovered last year and just cannot get out of my head. If I connected representative songs to the groups they would be: Ghost and Neighborhood #1(Tunnels).
However, if the OP believes I am tearing asunder the fabric of his inquiry, I will gladly delete this post and throw myself out of my officetel window forthwith. |
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Dev
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Interesting how Led Zeppelin hasn't made it onto anybody's lists so far. Overrated band? Sure they're great. Nobody's disputing that. But what do you think? |
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