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passport220

Joined: 14 Jun 2006 Location: Gyeongsangbuk-do province
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:48 am Post subject: |
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| Summer Wine wrote: |
| I am no longer sure that the offers being made at public schools are better than a good hogwan. |
Hiya S.W.
From your post I would gather at least at a public school I would likely be no worse off than (or in at least the same neighborhood as) at a good hogwon. That does not sound �o� so bad for a newbie like me. I don�t want to aim my sights too low, but from a great deal of what I read on the web, working your first job at a hogwon can be a crap shoot.
Once on the scene I figure I can scope out a better position (possiblely at a hogwon) while in country.
I am not trying to be argumentative. This tread is of great interest to me so I want to be active in it and keep getting excellent input such as yours.
Take care |
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Junior

Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Location: the eye
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Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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EPIk looks better than GEPIK because you can be on 2.7 after 2 years.
How much holiday time do you get though? Anyone know?
Does EPIK do summer camps? |
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Njord

Joined: 12 Jan 2006 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:12 am Post subject: |
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| What kind of salary and vacation can someone with a BA, CELTA, and one year of hogwon experience get with EPIK? Is it possible to negotiate some of the salary for more vacation and limits on the number of schools? How do you get around to all those schools, by the way? I assume you only go to one per day? |
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teachingld2004
Joined: 29 Mar 2004
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Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:27 pm Post subject: EPIK |
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| Re-read this thread. People have said they go to multi school. You are on a stadard contract depending on your eligilibility level. |
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crimsonlily
Joined: 08 May 2006
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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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I don't have experience in the hagwon, but I have met some people who were at a great hagwon. With EPIK, you don't know where you will be placed. You have to prepare all your material based on "anything you want." If you are not experienced, those guidelines aren't so helpful. I wanted the "security" of working for the government. The same stuff happens at public schools that I have read about happening at shady hagwons. I don't know if all the challenges have made me stronger, (sure I have become a better teacher through experience - the school didn't provide any resources or funding whatsover). I would not wish what I have been through on my worst enemy.
My suggestion: do your research. Ask to speak to some people who are currently working at the school you want to go to. Think of everything that matters to you, make a list, ask all those questions. If someone won't tell you an answer or just says that it is "great" or "very good" take that as a premonition of how future communication will go. In short: do the leg work and take the extra time and effort in searching for a job so you don't wind up in a bad situation. |
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adventureman
Joined: 18 Feb 2003
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:50 am Post subject: |
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| Junior wrote: |
EPIk looks better than GEPIK because you can be on 2.7 after 2 years.
How much holiday time do you get though? Anyone know?
Does EPIK do summer camps? |
Those top level EPIK jobs are only available to people who wish to spend more than two years the deep countryside, something the vast majority of westerners in Korea have not interest in doing. Currently working in one these positions myself, I would, without reservation, NOT recommend it to anyone, unless you are in serious debt or are over the age of 40. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003 Location: Yap
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 2:36 am Post subject: |
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| adventureman wrote: |
| Those top level EPIK jobs are only available to people who wish to spend more than two years the deep countryside. |
Simply not true. Maybe not Seoul, but lots of epik teachers work in urban settings. |
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buildbyflying

Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Location: To your right. No, your other right.
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Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 9:23 pm Post subject: |
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I think people are going to be frustrated in any job with as much bureaucratic nonsense as EPIK, but then, for anyone who's ever worked for corporations before (cube farm, etc.) this is kinda par for the course.
I've worked in rural and city schools and have found downsides and upsides to both. The extra money you get for a provincial and rural bonus usually just goes to travel expenses.
The program benefits some more than others. I've had considerable fewer days off than other teachers (some of which have had 2~3 months off) but I've been getting paid extra for any work outside of regular school and hours.
I certainly have my complaints (which I'm addressing in the petition) but overall, I think I'd be inclined to return (with an MA). |
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Horangi Munshin

Joined: 06 Apr 2003 Location: Busan
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:33 am Post subject: |
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Does experience outside public schools count? I've heard differing opinions and the stuff I've read on the websites hasn't been concrete.
I have a Bachelors Degree, a teaching diploma for high school teaching back home and well over 2 years experience in Korean hagwons, plus 2 years substitute experience back home. What level would I be placed at? |
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