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hiua25



Joined: 03 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:07 am    Post subject: World Cup Final Ref Reply with quote

and the referee for the World Cup final is...............Horacio Elizondo from Argentina. The man who allowed Frei's goal for Switzerland against Korea, and the man who sent off Rooney. Two controversial decisions but I believe he got them both right, and I'm English. Good for him I say, he obviously has a lot of integrity. A clear vindication for him and his decisions. Unless however the Koreans are right and he really is in the pay of Blatter, (but somehow I doubt it).
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JLarter



Joined: 17 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's also the referee who failed to book any Portugese diving players, the referee who failed to award a penalty to England when a Potugese player handballed.
Plus he's Argentinian, therefore he is a cunt.
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hiua25



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought the handball was ball-to-hand as opposed to hand-to-ball, so it can be argued no penalty.

Fair point about diving, although it happens very quickly and must be very very difficult to spot. I think if the referees don't see anything i.e they don't see a fuol and they don't see a deliberate dive either then they take no action.
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JLarter



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And he's also the ref that let players decide make his decisions for him. He wasn't going to send off Rooney until Ronaldo came along and protested. Something clearly shown in the TV footage.
There haven't been many refs this year that have impressed me. There have been far too many mistakes.
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hiua25



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree the standard of refereeing in this World Cup has been pretty poor. Especially in the early stages it was far too strict and players got yellow cards for almost nothing. But I think Elizondo has been an exeption.
Sure Ronaldo came up to protest about the foul and demand a red card but how do you know the ref hadn't made up his mind already? Do you have the ability to read his thought processes through the t.v screen? There was a delay between signalling a foul and showing the red card but he was just waiting for things to calm down.
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JLarter



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 11:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ref was making absolutely no moves to book Rooney, it can be seen in his eyes and how he reacts when the little c*nt Ronaldo starts whinging. He was totally swayed by protests.
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hermes.trismegistus



Joined: 08 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JLarter wrote:
The ref was making absolutely no moves to book Rooney, it can be seen in his eyes and how he reacts when the little c*nt Ronaldo starts whinging. He was totally swayed by protests.


Funny, I thought he was swayed when the impetuous child, Rooney, pushed another player.

Namaste.
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pocketfluff



Joined: 30 May 2006
Location: Washington, DC (school) and Los Angeles, CA (home)

PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JLarter wrote:
And he's also the ref that let players decide make his decisions for him. He wasn't going to send off Rooney until Ronaldo came along and protested.


Ronaldo was far away from the action when the ref decided to blow the whistle. I highly doubt that his protests made any difference regarding the card.

It's not unheard of for the ref to wait til the emotions have subsided to announce the card. The ref blew the whistle as soon as testes were stomped - the card was for that action in itself.
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JLarter



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Funny, I thought he was swayed when the impetuous child, Rooney, pushed another player.


Pushing a player would not get you sent off.

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Ronaldo was far away from the action when the ref decided to blow the whistle. I highly doubt that his protests made any difference regarding the card.


Ronaldo was in the refs face whilst the action was going on. If you watch the replay, then it is clear to everyone that Ronaldo caused the sending off. Why else would he now be leaving Man Utd? He knows what he did will cause him problems this season and it's pretty much an acceptance of blame.
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JLarter



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's funny, Zidane gets sent off even though the ref failed to see what happened. Unless you have seen what happened yourself, you cannot send off a player. Does that mean, he was swayed by other players for the second time?
If they were using video replays, it would be nice if they declared this introduction of technology.
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