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Captain Corea
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
Location: Seoul
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 Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:24 am Post subject: N.Korea Demands Rice for �Protecting� South |
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Sorry RR, but I HAD to post this one...
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N.Korea Demands Rice for �Protecting� South
North Korea on Wednesday demanded the South provide it with promised rice aid, apparently oblivious to the international diplomatic tensions it caused by test-firing several missiles only a week ago. The demand came at an inter-Korean ministerial meeting in Busan.
North Korea�s Senior Cabinet Counselor Kwon Ho-ung in his keynote speech hailed the impoverished country�s �Songun� or military-first ideology, which he claimed was helping the South protect its security and benefited �a vast majority� of South Koreans. Notable achievements of the Songun policy include Pyongyang�s nuclear weapons program and missile tests and mass starvation among its people for the sake of arming the military to the teeth. However, this was the first time the North has named South Koreans among its beneficiaries
The North Korean delegation also urged their South Korean counterparts to visit �sacred places� in the North when they celebrate Korea�s liberation from Japanese colonial rule on Aug. 15. They include the Kumsusan Memorial Palace where former leader Kim Il-sung lies embalmed, the Patriotic Martyrs' Cemetery and others. In other rhetoric, it called for Seoul's annual military drills with the U.S. Forces Korea to be suspended and the National Security Law to be scrapped. But the most immediate call was to deliver half a million tons of rice and raw materials for its light industry, which Seoul has suspended due to the missile test.
The North made no further comment on the tests, saying a Foreign Ministry statement on July 6, was sufficient explanation. A ministry spokesman at the time said the missile tests were part of routine military exercises to strengthen the North�s defense capability.
South Korean Unification Minister Lee Jong-seok in his speech warned things could �get out of control� if the North launches any further missiles. Lee gave short shrift to Kwon�s claims for the Songun policy. �Has anyone in the South asked the North to protect our safety?" he demanded. "North Korea can help us protect our security when it stops launching missiles and dismantles its nuclear program".
Unification Ministry spokesman Lee Kwan-se later said Seoul has no intention of providing assistance to Pyongyang at the moment |
Wow, has the Unification Ministry grown some balls of late? I think Lee's nose is still out of joint from being stood up with the cancellation of the DJ visit. |
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Zulu
Joined: 28 Apr 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:01 am Post subject: |
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| And the Roh Administration will probably eat it up. Priceless. |
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SuperFly
Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: In the doghouse
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| Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:09 am Post subject: |
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They shouldn't have to demand it, the south should just give it to them. If you believe in hope, love and brotherhood, politics shouldn't get in the way of feeding starving children.
Give it to them, show a little heart. It's food for christs sake.
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Guri Guy
Joined: 07 Sep 2003
Location: Bamboo Island
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| Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:31 am Post subject: |
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If you tell a big enough lie, people will believe it right?
North Korea is still technically at war with South Korea and it is protecting South Korea?
Words can not describe the stupidity of it all.  |
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SuperFly
Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: In the doghouse
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| Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:33 am Post subject: |
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| I just hate it when they use food to play politics. South Koreans don't remember hunger, or do they? |
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Guri Guy
Joined: 07 Sep 2003
Location: Bamboo Island
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| Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:53 am Post subject: |
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Of course hunger is nothing to be laughed at. However it is all in the way you ask isn't it? If I say gimme that or else I probably won't get a positive answer. Blackmailing and bullying people suprising enough creates negative feelings for the opposite party.
Naturally KJI has painted himself into a corner and who knows what is really going on in North Korea? Perhaps the sharks are circling and he can't show any sign of weakness like actually asking for food aid nicely.
Until North Korea can at least ask nicely or give appropriate concessions (hmmm...like the opening of the rail line they should have done) I say Tough Sh*t to them. |
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Adventurer
Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:58 am Post subject: |
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| Guri Guy wrote: |
Of course hunger is nothing to be laughed at. However it is all in the way you ask isn't it? If I say gimme that or else I probably won't get a positive answer. Blackmailing and bullying people suprising enough creates negative feelings for the opposite party.
Naturally KJI has painted himself into a corner and who knows what is really going on in North Korea? Perhaps the sharks are circling and he can't show any sign of weakness like actually asking for food aid nicely.
Until North Korea can at least ask nicely or give appropriate concessions (hmmm...like the opening of the rail line they should have done) I say Tough Sh*t to them. |
The North is looking like a spoiled child that doesn't know how to behave. And the South has given them food aid and has been quite patient with Kim Jung-IL. Why should Japan be expected to tolerate missiles going near its country? And why should South Korea have to deal with a North Korea that keeps cancelling meetings and aggravates the already tense situation between it and the United States and other members of the six-party talks? |
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Satori
Joined: 09 Dec 2005
Location: Above it all
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| Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 8:32 am Post subject: |
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| This reminds me that classic mafia movie theme where the local wise guy walks into a new business and says that the guy needs to pay him some money each week for "protection". The guys say, "Protection from what? I never needed no protection before" and the wise guy says "Protection from me!" |
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Benicio
Joined: 25 May 2006
Location: Down South- where it's hot & wet
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| Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:32 am Post subject: |
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Classic quote: "The bigger the lie, the more people will believe it."
The Norks are extortionists. They've been playing that game for years.
They're playing this card because they know they have the Roh government FIRMLY in their pockets. I mean, the Dae-Jun government was sucking up to them, but, wow, the Roh government is breaking its back to suck up even harder.
For all you who say "just give them the food aid because the kids are starving". Well, you obviously haven't seen the CNN special report where they showed the films of "free" aid rice being sold in the markets of NK to people who couldn't afford it not fifteen feet away from a dead corpse laying in the road.
Yep, that food aid is reall getting to the people who need it! |
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SuperFly
Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: In the doghouse
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| Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:36 am Post subject: |
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| For all you who say "just give them the food aid because the kids are starving". Well, you obviously haven't seen the CNN special report where they showed the films of "free" aid rice being sold in the markets of NK to people who couldn't afford it not fifteen feet away from a dead corpse laying in the road. |
I saw it Bennie.
I saw it, and the bit about the two kids that snuck across the border to china to get food for their family. I saw it. It was more than just one dead corpse though, right? And the part about the "finders" - the Norks who specialize in finding north koreans for people who want to find them (family, etc)
I still think that food can reach the poor kids though. I do.
That spot on CNN with the starving people is stuck in my mind.
You think the people selling that rice in the market have it much better than the starving people dying in the streets? Not much better. How about the people who crawl under the train tracks to scrape bits and peices of coal to sell, they got it much better?
Hunger sucks man. I don't have faith in KJI either, but I have faith in humanity. |
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Benicio
Joined: 25 May 2006
Location: Down South- where it's hot & wet
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| Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:55 am Post subject: |
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Superfly, off topic, but I love your handle.
Curtis Mayfield "Superfly" is it!
Anyway, I think it's time to find out what North Korea is really all about.
The only ways they have to get cash are:
-extort through threats
-counterfeiting US dollars(which they're very good at)
-narcotics trafficking
-selling missiles and techonology to "rogue" nations
-counting on South Korea to hand over bundles of cash at the drop of a hat and keep that "food aid" flowing
Is this how it should be for time eternal? |
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TheFonz
Joined: 01 Dec 2005
Location: North Georgia
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SuperFly
Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: In the doghouse
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| Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:53 am Post subject: |
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I may start another thread on this subject.
Is anyone interested in participating in a food drive for the kids in the north? PM me if you think you might be interested. I'm coming back to Seoul in November and I want to work on it. Please let me know. Thanks.
200 000 starving kids with no parents. What are we going to do about it? |
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mole
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
Location: Act III
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| Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6951629397402742053
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Oh, my. All shocking. But kids' drawings of human meat in the markets did it in for me. Horrid. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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| SuperFly wrote: |
I may start another thread on this subject.
Is anyone interested in participating in a food drive for the kids in the north? PM me if you think you might be interested. I'm coming back to Seoul in November and I want to work on it. Please let me know. Thanks.
200 000 starving kids with no parents. What are we going to do about it? |
No. Im not interested. Im interested in the South getting some balls and starving that regime into oblivion. |
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