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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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 Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:32 pm Post subject: Mother has triplets and quadruplets |
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060713/ap_on_fe_st/quad_babies_3
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LOS ANGELES - With fertility drugs, Angela Magdaleno had triplets three years ago. Last week, she had quadruplets � without fertility drugs.
Her two boys and two girls were healthy and doing well Wednesday after being born July 6 by Caesarean section in what doctors said was a rare occurrence of multiple births.
Magdaleno, 40, said she was shocked when her doctor told her she was pregnant with four babies.
"I didn't know what to do," she said in Spanish as she rested at home. "But now I'm happy because they're healthy and so am I."
Still, she worries that she might be overwhelmed with the work and sometimes struggles with mixed emotions about the future.
"I don't know if I'm sad or happy," she said. "I'm happy but, I don't know. I don't know how to explain it."
Her doctor, Kathryn Shaw, a high-risk pregnancy specialist, said Magdaleno did well during the pregnancy and developed no complications. The babies were born at 32 weeks � well beyond the 29-week average for quadruplets.
The two girls were larger than the boys. They weighed 4 pounds at birth and were 17 and 17.5 inches long. The boys weighed about 3.5 pounds and were 16 inches long.
As of Wednesday, their parents were still deciding what to name them.
Shaw said the odds of conceiving quadruplets without fertility drugs are about one in 800,000. She's seen only one other case of quadruplets being conceived without drugs � 18 years ago.
Even more rare, the boys appear to be identical twins, according to their doctor, Soha Idriss, who expects the babies will join their mother at home in about eight weeks.
Three years ago, Magdaleno gave birth to her triplets after undergoing in vitro fertilization. She said her husband wanted many children.
After their birth, she thought she was done having babies. Then she got pregnant with the quadruplets.
"She wanted to run," said her husband Afredo Anzaldo, 45, who lays carpet for a living.
When the quadruplets come home, Magdaleno will have help from two older daughters, Kelly Moreno, 17, and Stephanie Anzaldo, 15.
All 11 family members will be living in a one-bedroom apartment in East Los Angeles. Magdaleno said the living room is large and the babies are small, but she isn't sure what the family will do when they get bigger.
When the older girls are at school and her husband is at work, a friend has offered to help with the newborns and the triplets. All seven are in cloth diapers that have to be changed and laundered.
"It's a lot of work," their mother said.
In the hospital, the babies sleep wrapped in blankets and attached to monitors and wires in separate incubators. They have full heads of straight dark hair and plump pink mouths.
When Anzaldo checked in on one of his girls Tuesday, she had thrown off her blanket and slept on her back.
Anzaldo took the couple's triplets to White Memorial Medical Center to meet their new brothers and sisters and to let Magdaleno get some rest at home.
The triplets, Afredo, Catarin and Halily, weren't sure at first if they wanted the extra siblings, Anzaldo said.
"They wanted one baby and no more," he said.
Since then, they have accepted their new brothers and sisters, Magdaleno said |
Holy batman. 11 people in a one-bedroom apartment. How soon until Extreme Home Makeover gets a hold of them? |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:05 am Post subject: |
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If you are living in such a small area, you can't have much money. What posseses a person to have even 1 (since it sounds liek they weren't expecting 4 more) after already having three.
Wait, reread it. Father want's more children. First three were all girls. Father want's a son. Either that, or they are Catholic. Seriuosly, it will be nice when they find out how to sterilize us with a pill and reverse it with another one. I don't always trust the government, but some people just shouldn't be parents, which includes this husband (I doubt the mother had any say in it, so she doesn't count). |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:10 am Post subject: |
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| If you are living in such a small area, you can't have much money. What posseses a person to have even one (since it sounds like they weren't expecting four more) after already having three... |
Catholic, Hispanic cultural imperatives: you are commanded to have as many children as God sees fit to give you. Birth control is forbidden; economic considerations do not come into play.
Isn't it the same with some of the more traditional, Catholic, French Canadians in Quebec? |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:13 am Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| laogaiguk wrote: |
| If you are living in such a small area, you can't have much money. What posseses a person to have even one (since it sounds like they weren't expecting four more) after already having three... |
Catholic, Hispanic cultural imperatives: you are commanded to have as many children as God sees fit to give you. Birth control is forbidden; economic considerations do not come into play.
Isn't it the same with some of the more traditional, Catholic, French Canadians in Quebec? |
Actually, yes, you're right. It's much less though as the Quebec government is actually offering money to anyone who has more than 3 children. |
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red dog
Joined: 31 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:18 am Post subject: |
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The article says they only wanted one kid and suggests that the second pregnancy was an accident. Also, they had in-vitro fertilization, which Catholics oppose. It sounds as if they didn't bother with birth control because they didn't think they could have any more children.
What I don't get is whether this was all just a coincidence or if the fertility drugs had a delayed effect -- long after the mother stopped taking them. Anyone know if this is possible? |
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red dog
Joined: 31 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:19 am Post subject: |
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| Gopher wrote: |
| laogaiguk wrote: |
| If you are living in such a small area, you can't have much money. What posseses a person to have even one (since it sounds like they weren't expecting four more) after already having three... |
Catholic, Hispanic cultural imperatives: you are commanded to have as many children as God sees fit to give you. Birth control is forbidden; economic considerations do not come into play.
Isn't it the same with some of the more traditional, Catholic, French Canadians in Quebec? |
I think this was true a few generations ago -- not anymore. |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:25 am Post subject: |
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| red dog wrote: |
The article says they only wanted one kid and suggests that the second pregnancy was an accident. Also, they had in-vitro fertilization, which Catholics oppose. It sounds as if they didn't bother with birth control because they didn't think they could have any more children.
What I don't get is whether this was all just a coincidence or if the fertility drugs had a delayed effect -- long after the mother stopped taking them. Anyone know if this is possible? |
Wanting even one kid after 3 is reckless and bad parenting considering the financial situation. It was because they were Catholic, or the father wanted a boy. I would put good money on one or both of those reasons. Catholics also do many, many things they are supposedly against when it gets in their way. Doesn't matter how or what happened.
These people are a problem and again, I can't wait until we can be forcibly sterilized as babies and only allowed to parent after taking a course and showing we would be good parents. This has many opportunities for big brother or misuse, but when I compare it to the selfish jerks in the article or all the horrid parents I have seen with my family being a foster family I think it is worth it. |
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red dog
Joined: 31 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:18 am Post subject: |
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Sorry, I misread this part ... I thought the parents wanted only one baby, and I took that to mean that before either pregnancy they wanted an only child. It looks as if it was their kids who only wanted one sibling.
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The triplets, Afredo, Catarin and Halily, weren't sure at first if they wanted the extra siblings, Anzaldo said.
"They wanted one baby and no more," he said.
Since then, they have accepted their new brothers and sisters, Magdaleno said |
I missed this part too:
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| Three years ago, Magdaleno gave birth to her triplets after undergoing in vitro fertilization. She said her husband wanted many children. |
But still, this part strongly suggests the last pregnancy wasn't planned:
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After their birth, she thought she was done having babies. Then she got pregnant with the quadruplets.
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:32 am Post subject: |
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| The real question is this - how do you find time to get pregnant with 5 children (including baby triplets) in a one bedroom apartment? |
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