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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:41 am Post subject: "Go back to America" even for Swiss and Canadians |
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Getting in the Way of Korean Protestors' Rage
A Swiss man and two friends were set upon by a mob of angry protestors who apparently mistook them for Americans on Wednesday.... Walter, the victim, said one of the young men then started abusing him at him in English, to the point where they almost came to blows. But a university student who was passing dissuaded his assailant. He asked if Walter and his friends were American but added, "Even if you tell them that you aren't, they won't believe you," Walter said. The student advised them to cross over to the other side of the street.... Walter is not alone. Jerry, 32-year-old Canadian.... In 2002, Jerry saw his first candlelight vigil in Gwanghwamun and thought it was beautiful. He had been filming the gathering for a while when all of the sudden a few of the protesters came up to him and shouted, "Go back to America" and tried to snatch his camcorder....
Chosun Ilbo (July 13, 2006)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200607/200607130017.html |
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Benicio
Joined: 25 May 2006 Location: Down South- where it's hot & wet
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:54 am Post subject: |
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Makes you wonder if they will ever get beyond automatically assuming that all foreigners are American.
Anyway, I've found it's best to steer clear of any Korean mob that is in a bad mood. |
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Barking Mad Lord Snapcase
Joined: 04 Nov 2003
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:17 am Post subject: |
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Do they want the tourist dollar?
Do they want foreign investment?
Do they want the West to turn away from Big Bad Japan in their favour?
Thought not. |
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SOOHWA101
Joined: 04 Mar 2006 Location: Makin moves...trying to find 24pyung
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:25 am Post subject: |
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My knee jerk response is to say "what an insensitive group of people that are behind the times." But then I remember where I am at and what I see all of the time. I hear "Go back to your own country" and "learn the freakin language" almost everyday.
Of course, we really do have a problem with immigration right now, but that's beside the point. |
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Alias

Joined: 24 Jan 2003
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:32 am Post subject: |
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It probably wouldn't have been a good idea to tell them that he is Swiss either.  |
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itaewonguy

Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:44 am Post subject: |
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and your reply should be..
sure.. can you come to America and take the 2million koreans leaving in my country back with you!!!!! |
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Newbie

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:19 am Post subject: |
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Big whoop. How many Canadians and Americans say "go back to _____" or refer to all Asians as Chinese.
Korea is a joke, but let's not rag on them for something so silly. |
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dogbert

Joined: 29 Jan 2003 Location: Killbox 90210
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:28 am Post subject: |
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itaewonguy wrote: |
and your reply should be..
sure.. can you come to America and take the 2million koreans leaving in my country back with you!!!!! |
Exactly. |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles

Joined: 23 Jan 2003 Location: I'm one cool cat!
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:49 am Post subject: |
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Newbie wrote: |
...let's not rag on them for something so silly. |
Agreed. Can we instead ridicule them for religiously watching X-Men and similar shows?
'Cause that's infinitely more stupid, and encompasses a significantly larger portion of the population. |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:02 am Post subject: |
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Newbie wrote: |
Big whoop. How many Canadians and Americans say "go back to _____" or refer to all Asians as Chinese.
Korea is a joke, but let's not rag on them for something so silly. |
How many Canadians or Americans writes an anti-Korean song that is played throughout the country? How popular are anti-Korean songs in Canada or the United States?
*beep* USA
*beep*'n USA, often called *beep* USA, is a protest song written by South Korean singer and activist Yoon Min-suk. Strongly anti-American, the song was written in 2002 at a time when, following the Apolo Ohno Olympic controversy and an incident in which two Korean middle school students were killed by a U.S. Army vehicle, anti-American sentiment in South Korea reached peak levels.
Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/*beep*
Music
http://www.namusori.pe.kr/album/b_usa.php
Music Sheet
http://www.songnlife.com/song/data/*beep*.GIF
Heroes Walk Among Us
The doyen of anti-American Korean pop stars is Yoon Min-sok, author of "*beep* U.S.A.," a song whose title often appears on buttons and placards at demonstrations across Korea. So entrenched is the song in the Korean psyche that even middle school students have been known to sing the lyrics in front of their American English teachers.
Yoon's song calls America a "nasty nation" and a "vulgar country" that "tries to rob everything by force." According to Yoon, America is the true enemy of the Korean people and the cause of all their woes:
Is the U.S.A. still a beautiful country?
Is the North still an "enemy" to be killed?
How much more do you want to endure?
It's time to shout: "Yankee, go home!"
You dirty Yankees, wait and see
We will reunify the country with the independent force
of the Korean nation
We will build a dignified country, a reunified country
Don't forget the blood-stained history of Korea!
You, author of Korea's division, *beep* USA!
Don't forget the Nogun-ri massacre of civilians!
You, murderer, *beep* USA!
Perhaps the greatest affront to the Americans that fought and died during the Korean War has been young South Koreans' treatment of the American flag. After staging an anti-American demonstration around
noon, a group of youths belonging to the pro-North Korean student
organization Hanchongnyun broke into a U.S. military compound in
Seoul, setting fire to an American flag and calling for the withdrawal
of U.S. forces from Korea.
(article excerpt from http://www.americandaily.com/item/1844)
Original Song
http://myhome.naver.com/graykiny/*beep*.htm
Author: koreangirl
"that song is cool.... does anyone know the exact english translation?"
http://bbs2.chosun.com/cwb-bin/CrazyWWWBoard.exe?mode=read&num=796&db=EPal&backdepth=1
School kids singing bin Laden's praises
Elementary school students in Busan and other parts of South Gyeongsang province are reportedly singing the praises of Osama bin Laden.... The song, reportedly sung to the tune of the theme song of a popular cartoon, goes something like this: "Osama bin Laden, the person I admire most.
by Kim Sang-jin, JoongAng Daily (December 26, 2001)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200112/26/200112260143155789900090409041.html |
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Ilsanman

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Bucheon, Korea
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:24 am Post subject: yes |
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We don't write them because Korea is not important enough to care about.
Real Reality wrote: |
Newbie wrote: |
Big whoop. How many Canadians and Americans say "go back to _____" or refer to all Asians as Chinese.
Korea is a joke, but let's not rag on them for something so silly. |
How many Canadians or Americans writes an anti-Korean song that is played throughout the country? How popular are anti-Korean songs in Canada or the United States?
*beep* USA
*beep*'n USA, often called *beep* USA, is a protest song written by South Korean singer and activist Yoon Min-suk. Strongly anti-American, the song was written in 2002 at a time when, following the Apolo Ohno Olympic controversy and an incident in which two Korean middle school students were killed by a U.S. Army vehicle, anti-American sentiment in South Korea reached peak levels.
Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/*beep*
Music
http://www.namusori.pe.kr/album/b_usa.php
Music Sheet
http://www.songnlife.com/song/data/*beep*.GIF
Heroes Walk Among Us
The doyen of anti-American Korean pop stars is Yoon Min-sok, author of "*beep* U.S.A.," a song whose title often appears on buttons and placards at demonstrations across Korea. So entrenched is the song in the Korean psyche that even middle school students have been known to sing the lyrics in front of their American English teachers.
Yoon's song calls America a "nasty nation" and a "vulgar country" that "tries to rob everything by force." According to Yoon, America is the true enemy of the Korean people and the cause of all their woes:
Is the U.S.A. still a beautiful country?
Is the North still an "enemy" to be killed?
How much more do you want to endure?
It's time to shout: "Yankee, go home!"
You dirty Yankees, wait and see
We will reunify the country with the independent force
of the Korean nation
We will build a dignified country, a reunified country
Don't forget the blood-stained history of Korea!
You, author of Korea's division, *beep* USA!
Don't forget the Nogun-ri massacre of civilians!
You, murderer, *beep* USA!
Perhaps the greatest affront to the Americans that fought and died during the Korean War has been young South Koreans' treatment of the American flag. After staging an anti-American demonstration around
noon, a group of youths belonging to the pro-North Korean student
organization Hanchongnyun broke into a U.S. military compound in
Seoul, setting fire to an American flag and calling for the withdrawal
of U.S. forces from Korea.
(article excerpt from http://www.americandaily.com/item/1844)
Original Song
http://myhome.naver.com/graykiny/*beep*.htm
Author: koreangirl
"that song is cool.... does anyone know the exact english translation?"
http://bbs2.chosun.com/cwb-bin/CrazyWWWBoard.exe?mode=read&num=796&db=EPal&backdepth=1
School kids singing bin Laden's praises
Elementary school students in Busan and other parts of South Gyeongsang province are reportedly singing the praises of Osama bin Laden.... The song, reportedly sung to the tune of the theme song of a popular cartoon, goes something like this: "Osama bin Laden, the person I admire most.
by Kim Sang-jin, JoongAng Daily (December 26, 2001)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200112/26/200112260143155789900090409041.html |
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Summer Wine
Joined: 20 Mar 2005 Location: Next to a River
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 8:30 am Post subject: |
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I read the above posts, don't wish to copy them to restate the obvious. I would like to just say a little to those who weren't here in 2002.
For all of us who read the newspaper article that was printed during the World Cup about the deaths of the 2 students and who thought to ourselves, that the Koreans were taking the matter rather well (No major protests).
Who then faced a month to two months of being barred from restaurants, spat at on the street, having to make their way through protests to use the subway, glared, screamed at and otherwise treated like dirt for being an american (I am not, Gopher will support that), as soon as the world cup matches ended. Life was not so easy in Korea as it is today.
It only ended with the stabbing of a US Military Officer. It appeared to us that the anger violence, intimidation could be turned on and off like a faucet (overnight it seemed). To those who came after and don't understand the emotion on the street at that time.
Please do us a favor and don't judge us as being insensitive and ignorant to Korea and its emotions. Though we are still here and live here daily.
Its not always been easy to live here as a foreigner. |
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own_king

Joined: 17 Apr 2004 Location: here
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 10:08 am Post subject: |
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Real Reality wrote: |
Newbie wrote: |
Big whoop. How many Canadians and Americans say "go back to _____" or refer to all Asians as Chinese.
Korea is a joke, but let's not rag on them for something so silly. |
How many Canadians or Americans writes an anti-Korean song that is played throughout the country? How popular are anti-Korean songs in Canada or the United States?
*beep* USA
*beep*'n USA, often called *beep* USA, is a protest song written by South Korean singer and activist Yoon Min-suk. Strongly anti-American, the song was written in 2002 at a time when, following the Apolo Ohno Olympic controversy and an incident in which two Korean middle school students were killed by a U.S. Army vehicle, anti-American sentiment in South Korea reached peak levels.
Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/*beep*
Music
http://www.namusori.pe.kr/album/b_usa.php
Music Sheet
http://www.songnlife.com/song/data/*beep*.GIF
Heroes Walk Among Us
The doyen of anti-American Korean pop stars is Yoon Min-sok, author of "*beep* U.S.A.," a song whose title often appears on buttons and placards at demonstrations across Korea. So entrenched is the song in the Korean psyche that even middle school students have been known to sing the lyrics in front of their American English teachers.
Yoon's song calls America a "nasty nation" and a "vulgar country" that "tries to rob everything by force." According to Yoon, America is the true enemy of the Korean people and the cause of all their woes:
Is the U.S.A. still a beautiful country?
Is the North still an "enemy" to be killed?
How much more do you want to endure?
It's time to shout: "Yankee, go home!"
You dirty Yankees, wait and see
We will reunify the country with the independent force
of the Korean nation
We will build a dignified country, a reunified country
Don't forget the blood-stained history of Korea!
You, author of Korea's division, *beep* USA!
Don't forget the Nogun-ri massacre of civilians!
You, murderer, *beep* USA!
Perhaps the greatest affront to the Americans that fought and died during the Korean War has been young South Koreans' treatment of the American flag. After staging an anti-American demonstration around
noon, a group of youths belonging to the pro-North Korean student
organization Hanchongnyun broke into a U.S. military compound in
Seoul, setting fire to an American flag and calling for the withdrawal
of U.S. forces from Korea.
(article excerpt from http://www.americandaily.com/item/1844)
Original Song
http://myhome.naver.com/graykiny/*beep*.htm
Author: koreangirl
"that song is cool.... does anyone know the exact english translation?"
http://bbs2.chosun.com/cwb-bin/CrazyWWWBoard.exe?mode=read&num=796&db=EPal&backdepth=1
School kids singing bin Laden's praises
Elementary school students in Busan and other parts of South Gyeongsang province are reportedly singing the praises of Osama bin Laden.... The song, reportedly sung to the tune of the theme song of a popular cartoon, goes something like this: "Osama bin Laden, the person I admire most.
by Kim Sang-jin, JoongAng Daily (December 26, 2001)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200112/26/200112260143155789900090409041.html |
Thanks RR for reminding me why I hate Korea sometimes. Can you imagine, if we wrote a song bragging about Japanese power during WWII and congratulating then for using stupid Koreans as slaves and comfort women? That's about equal to saying they admire OBL - sickening. It slays me when they show so much appreciation and love for Turkey, who sent about a dozen guys to fight in the Korean War, but in the same breath, diaplay their hate for America. If it wasn't for the US, there wouldn't even be a South Korea. If you want to see what Korea would be like without the US and American dollars, just travel about 90 miles to the north. Without US tax breaks and a virtually duty free entry of Korean products into the US market after the Korean War, South Korea would really have nothing. There was no miracle on the Han or any other garbage like that, it was the US. I'm not even American - I'm Canadian, and sometimes harbour bad feelings about some Americans too - but in this case as an outside observer with no real agenda, I can see things for what they are. |
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doggyji

Joined: 21 Feb 2006 Location: Toronto - Hamilton - Vineland - St. Catherines
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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own_king wrote: |
Real Reality wrote: |
Newbie wrote: |
Big whoop. How many Canadians and Americans say "go back to _____" or refer to all Asians as Chinese.
Korea is a joke, but let's not rag on them for something so silly. |
How many Canadians or Americans writes an anti-Korean song that is played throughout the country? How popular are anti-Korean songs in Canada or the United States?
*beep* USA
*beep*'n USA, often called *beep* USA, is a protest song written by South Korean singer and activist Yoon Min-suk. Strongly anti-American, the song was written in 2002 at a time when, following the Apolo Ohno Olympic controversy and an incident in which two Korean middle school students were killed by a U.S. Army vehicle, anti-American sentiment in South Korea reached peak levels.
Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/*beep*
Music
http://www.namusori.pe.kr/album/b_usa.php
Music Sheet
http://www.songnlife.com/song/data/*beep*.GIF
Heroes Walk Among Us
The doyen of anti-American Korean pop stars is Yoon Min-sok, author of "*beep* U.S.A.," a song whose title often appears on buttons and placards at demonstrations across Korea. So entrenched is the song in the Korean psyche that even middle school students have been known to sing the lyrics in front of their American English teachers.
Yoon's song calls America a "nasty nation" and a "vulgar country" that "tries to rob everything by force." According to Yoon, America is the true enemy of the Korean people and the cause of all their woes:
Is the U.S.A. still a beautiful country?
Is the North still an "enemy" to be killed?
How much more do you want to endure?
It's time to shout: "Yankee, go home!"
You dirty Yankees, wait and see
We will reunify the country with the independent force
of the Korean nation
We will build a dignified country, a reunified country
Don't forget the blood-stained history of Korea!
You, author of Korea's division, *beep* USA!
Don't forget the Nogun-ri massacre of civilians!
You, murderer, *beep* USA!
Perhaps the greatest affront to the Americans that fought and died during the Korean War has been young South Koreans' treatment of the American flag. After staging an anti-American demonstration around
noon, a group of youths belonging to the pro-North Korean student
organization Hanchongnyun broke into a U.S. military compound in
Seoul, setting fire to an American flag and calling for the withdrawal
of U.S. forces from Korea.
(article excerpt from http://www.americandaily.com/item/1844)
Original Song
http://myhome.naver.com/graykiny/*beep*.htm
Author: koreangirl
"that song is cool.... does anyone know the exact english translation?"
http://bbs2.chosun.com/cwb-bin/CrazyWWWBoard.exe?mode=read&num=796&db=EPal&backdepth=1
School kids singing bin Laden's praises
Elementary school students in Busan and other parts of South Gyeongsang province are reportedly singing the praises of Osama bin Laden.... The song, reportedly sung to the tune of the theme song of a popular cartoon, goes something like this: "Osama bin Laden, the person I admire most.
by Kim Sang-jin, JoongAng Daily (December 26, 2001)
http://joongangdaily.joins.com/200112/26/200112260143155789900090409041.html |
Thanks RR for reminding me why I hate Korea sometimes. Can you imagine, if we wrote a song bragging about Japanese power during WWII and congratulating then for using stupid Koreans as slaves and comfort women? That's about equal to saying they admire OBL - sickening. It slays me when they show so much appreciation and love for Turkey, who sent about a dozen guys to fight in the Korean War, but in the same breath, diaplay their hate for America. If it wasn't for the US, there wouldn't even be a South Korea. If you want to see what Korea would be like without the US and American dollars, just travel about 90 miles to the north. Without US tax breaks and a virtually duty free entry of Korean products into the US market after the Korean War, South Korea would really have nothing. There was no miracle on the Han or any other garbage like that, it was the US. I'm not even American - I'm Canadian, and sometimes harbour bad feelings about some Americans too - but in this case as an outside observer with no real agenda, I can see things for what they are. |
That song's got old already. How many Koreans will find that song reasonably well-written and pleasant? It sounds so extreme and agitative even if you know nothing about the history and current affairs. I think the once huge anti-Americanism was a hype emotionally ignited by the two school girls' tragic death. The level of the sentiment hasn't lasted for long though, has it? Ideas change quickly in the southern half of the Korean peninsula. If something happens, there will always be anti-reactions(Koreans love antism, don't they..) and at times they become supported by the majority later. These days who in their right mind thinks blind anti-Americanism will do good to Korea? Do a survey of adult people around you and see what comes up. |
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Apple Scruff
Joined: 29 Oct 2003
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Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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I know that the majority of Koreans are probably not so short-sighted to want nothing to do with America, but I agree with 95% of what own_king said. Seoul would be a shantytown right now if America hadn't stepped in. |
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