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Dan The Chainsawman



Joined: 05 May 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep the replies coming. Usual Suspects absolutely rules! (Dan - you're nuts! )


I have delayed my drinking from before work to just after work. Something inside me screams at me not to get tanked then come to work. Not sure what, and for real this arsehole of a place doesn't exactly inspire me to care, but here I sit fresh clean and sober.

However, the movie confused the hell out of me just to the end. Where you see that little mutant walking off and all the sudden he starts standing straight and working out the kinks.

Fo' Real that explained the whole damn thing to me.
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skinhead



Joined: 11 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan The Chainsawman wrote:
Keep the replies coming. Usual Suspects absolutely rules! (Dan - you're nuts! )


I have delayed my drinking from before work to just after work. Something inside me screams at me not to get tanked then come to work. Not sure what, and for real this arsehole of a place doesn't exactly inspire me to care, but here I sit fresh clean and sober.

However, the movie confused the hell out of me just to the end. Where you see that little mutant walking off and all the sudden he starts standing straight and working out the kinks.

Fo' Real that explained the whole damn thing to me.

So there you go. Me too.
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Manner of Speaking



Joined: 09 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kobayashi is the 9th most common Japanese surname. It means "little forest". Kobayashi Maru was the name of a fictional spacecraft in the movie Star Trek: the Rath of Khan.

The name "Soze" resembles the Turkish word s�zel, meaning "verbal," which was Kint's nickname. Additionally, the same term has a Hungarian-sounding pronunciation, when it is spelled with an "�.". The name "Keyser", derives from the Turkish Ottoman title "Qaysar" [from Qaysar-in-Rum] and resembles the spelling and pronunciation of the German word Kaiser, which descended from the Latin word Caesar, meaning "emperor." The name Kint also resembles the word "King". Thus, Kint's names could mean "Verbal Emperor" or "Verbal King."

Soze's name in the script had originally been "Keyser Sume", the name of a lawyer Christopher McQuarrie had been introduced to while writing the script. It was changed before production.

The name of Agent Kujan, who fails to apprehend the meaning of Kint's tale, is a homophone for the French epithet couillon, a doofus.
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pocketfluff



Joined: 30 May 2006
Location: Washington, DC (school) and Los Angeles, CA (home)

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Manner of Speaking wrote:
Kobayashi is the 9th most common Japanese surname. It means "little forest". Kobayashi Maru was the name of a fictional spacecraft in the movie Star Trek: the Rath of Khan.

The name "Soze" resembles the Turkish word s�zel, meaning "verbal," which was Kint's nickname. Additionally, the same term has a Hungarian-sounding pronunciation, when it is spelled with an "�.". The name "Keyser", derives from the Turkish Ottoman title "Qaysar" [from Qaysar-in-Rum] and resembles the spelling and pronunciation of the German word Kaiser, which descended from the Latin word Caesar, meaning "emperor." The name Kint also resembles the word "King". Thus, Kint's names could mean "Verbal Emperor" or "Verbal King."

Soze's name in the script had originally been "Keyser Sume", the name of a lawyer Christopher McQuarrie had been introduced to while writing the script. It was changed before production.

The name of Agent Kujan, who fails to apprehend the meaning of Kint's tale, is a homophone for the French epithet couillon, a doofus.


Wow, thanks for that. Very awesome.
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Axl Rose



Joined: 16 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

so what is the significance of the movie being narrated by Spacey/Kaiser?

"...I got to make out like I was notorious".
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re:cursive



Joined: 04 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From my perpective the majority of this film is shown and/or told from a subjective point of view and not an objective one so any scene retold from the "past", ie. the majority of the movie, is just a tale told by a character. Therefore the contradictions that appear in these scenes are perfectly natural just as the contradictions in any form of oral storytelling are.

If I was to put my money on who was Soze I would say it was Spacey's character. I don't think the point of the film is that it all ties together in a perfect little package at the end but rather the film is about the process of storytelling and the way in which Soze/Spacey is somewhat of a mythological figure and the way in which he (and obviously the scriptwriters) create, add to and manipulate this myth throughout the duration of the film.
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Manner of Speaking



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 5:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pocketfluff wrote:
Wow, thanks for that. Very awesome.


Wish I could take credit for that, but actually it's from Wikipedia! Laughing
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