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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 12:20 pm    Post subject: How do I sleep? Reply with quote

Tonight, I didn't even bother going to sleep.

I'm teaching a class 6:30-8 am on Tuesdays and Thursdays. My regular shift is 2-9 pm. I have a real problem even thinking about trying to get any shut eye on Monday and Wednesday nights.

Wouldn't I be better off teaching the same shift at least 4 days a week instead of up and down like it is? Of course it would be at least double the money in OT, but it would also allow me to adapt to the schedule much better.

Is anyone going/Has anyone went throught this type of schedule before? What did you do? Take sleeping pills?
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Captain Courageous



Joined: 16 Jul 2006
Location: Bundang and loving it

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:35 pm    Post subject: Sleep aids Reply with quote

That's one heck of a crappy arrangement right there.

Melatonin is excellent to regulate your sleep cycle, so you might want to look into getting some of that, if it's available where you are. If you take about 10mg of it in a sitting, and then lie down immediately afterwards, you should have no trouble falling asleep within the hour, so long as you're not stressed or nervous about something.

The problem with most OTC sleep aids is that they keep you out for a long time. You might want to try soime benadryl. That does a pretty good job knocking me out without KEEPING me out for extended periods of time. A melatonin/benadryl combo has a tendency to give me the best uninterrupted sleep ever.
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ella



Joined: 17 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 2:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I second Benadryl, but what an awful schedule! What was it someone posted about employers happily using you up then just going to the puppy bin to get another foreigner? I wish people would refuse to work such hours and force them to hire one person to work mornings and another for evenings.

I love and need my sleep and rest, I feel for you, OP.
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ChopChaeJoe



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any Yak-si will sell you doxylamine succinate. It'll knock you out real good for about 8 hours. Don't mess with it unless you take it about 10 hours before you're supposed to wake up. Otherwise you will feel severely drugged the next day and people will ask if you are sick.
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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ella wrote:
I second Benadryl, but what an awful schedule! What was it someone posted about employers happily using you up then just going to the puppy bin to get another foreigner? I wish people would refuse to work such hours and force them to hire one person to work mornings and another for evenings.

I love and need my sleep and rest, I feel for you, OP.


Don't get me wrong. It was my choice to work that shift. I actually insisted that I be the one to teach it. It pays 45,000/class. An extra 360,000/month (no tax).

Maybe I'll try Benadryl. Usually, without this shift, I stay up and sleep in until my heart's content. If this class were everyday, or, better yet, 4 straight days (MTWT or TWTF) it would be much better. I'd be able to adapt to that (and make even more money), but this is too up and down. I drink too much coffee during the day, etc. After teaching kids all afternoon and evening, I'm usually all hyped up when I get home. Hard to get to sleep.

It's 9:15 now. I got home from that class about an hour ago. And her I am typing away on the computer when I should by getting some sleep. My weekend was kind of screwy in that yesterday I slept off and on and finally woke up at 6:30 pm the last time. Weird schedule.
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riley



Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: where creditors can find me

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck, glad to hear that the schedule wasn't forced on you. Is this temporary?
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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

riley wrote:
Good luck, glad to hear that the schedule wasn't forced on you. Is this temporary?


It's on trial for a couple of months. The other teacher is teaching another class from the same company during regular hours (no OT). Could turn into more classes and possible some phone teaching where I would get more OT. I singed something that states an end date at the beginning of September.
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Captain Courageous



Joined: 16 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By then you might find yourself syched up with your schedule, and it'll be tough to go back to "normal" when it ends. That's what happened to me when I did a split shift working here in the states. Started out very tough, but within a month I was more or less used to the schedule, took naps at the same time each day, etc. When that stopped, I went through the same process getting back to a normal sleep schedule.
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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, that's no problem. Sometimes I keep that schedule anyway. But when you have to physically go somewhere and teach, it's more of an issue. I really don't think I'll get used to teaching one early morning class twice a week. Ever.
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Qinella



Joined: 25 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd use sleeping pills.
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Make yourself get up earlier the rest of the week, even when you're not teaching. That way you'll be tired enough to go to bed early when you need to.

It sounds like you're still trying to keep a night owl schedule the rest of your week, and that is guaranteed to grind you down.
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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Son Deureo! wrote:
Make yourself get up earlier the rest of the week, even when you're not teaching. That way you'll be tired enough to go to bed early when you need to.

It sounds like you're still trying to keep a night owl schedule the rest of your week, and that is guaranteed to grind you down.


Yes. I thought of that one. Haven't been able to do it. Haven't wantedt to do it. That would work though.
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merlot



Joined: 04 Nov 2005
Location: I tried to contain myself but I escaped.

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 mg Lorazapam (brand name-- Ativan)

(it's a benzo in the same class as Valium, etc.) --great liitle pills actually for anxiey conrol, but real charmers when it come to sleeping sound and waking up feeling great.

WARNING: Only take them short term until you can get a beter schedule or something; they can be highly addictive.

They are great for international travel as well.

But seriously, BE CAREFUL with these things if your try them.
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ella



Joined: 17 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:

Don't get me wrong. It was my choice to work that shift.


Ah, I misunderstood. If you can handle the schedule, that's great. Just make sure you aren't sacrificing your health for teaching, if it comes down to that.
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khyber



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Compunction Junction

PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the correct answer is a la MacBain:
"On top of a big pile of money with many beautiful ladies"
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