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[Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee]

Israel has one week to blast Hezbollah

19 July 2006 07:23

The United States is giving Israel a window of a week to inflict maximum damage on Hezbollah before weighing in behind international calls for a ceasefire in Lebanon, according to British, European and Israeli sources.

The Bush administration, backed by Britain, has blocked efforts for an immediate halt to the fighting initiated at the United Nations Security Council, the G8 summit in St Petersburg and the European foreign ministers' meeting in Brussels.

"It's clear the Americans have given the Israelis the green light. They [the Israeli attacks] will be allowed to go on longer, perhaps for another week," a senior European official said on Tuesday. Diplomatic sources said there was a clear time limit, partly dictated by fears that a prolonged conflict could spin out of control.

US strategy in allowing Israel this freedom for a limited period has several objectives, one of which is delivering a slap to Iran and Syria, who Washington claims are directing Hezbollah and Hamas militants from behind the scenes.

US President George Bush on Tuesday night said that he suspected Syria was trying to reassert its influence in Lebanon. Speaking in Washington, he said: "It's in our interest for Syria to stay out of Lebanon and for this government in Lebanon to succeed and survive. The root cause of the problem is Hezbollah and that problem needs to be addressed."

British Prime Minister Tony Blair on Tuesday swung behind the US position that Israel need not end the bombing until Hezbollah hands over captured prisoners and ends its rocket attacks. During a Commons statement, he resisted backbench demands that he call for a ceasefire.

Echoing the US position, he told MPs: "Of course we all want violence to stop and stop immediately, but we recognise the only realistic way to achieve such a ceasefire is to address the underlying reasons why this violence has broken out."

He also indicated it might take many months to agree the terms of a UN stabilisation force on the Lebanese border.

After Blair spoke, British officials privately acknowledged the US had given Israel a green light to continue bombing Lebanon until it believes Hezbollah's infrastructure has been destroyed.

Washington's hands-off approach was underlined on Tuesday when it was confirmed that Condoleezza Rice, the US Secretary of State, is delaying a visit to the region until she has met a special UN team. She is expected in the region on Friday, according to Dan Gillerman, Israel's ambassador to the UN.

The US is publicly denying any role in setting a timeframe for Israeli strikes. When asked whether the US was holding back diplomatically, Tony Snow, the White House's press spokesperson, said on Tuesday: "No, no; the insinuation there is that there is active military planning, collaboration or collusion, between the United States and Israel -- and there isn't ... the US has been in the lead of the diplomatic efforts, issuing repeated calls for restraint, but at the same time putting together an international consensus. You've got to remember who was responsible for this: Hezbollah ... It would be misleading to say the United States hasn't been engaged. We've been deeply engaged."

Steven Cook, a specialist in US-Middle East policy at the Washington-based Council on Foreign Relations, said: "It's abundantly clear [that US policy is] to give the Israelis the opportunity to strike a blow at Hezbollah ...

"They have global reach, and prior to 9/11 they killed more Americans than any other group. But the Israelis are overplaying their hand."

Israel is already laying the ground for negotiations. "We are beginning a diplomatic process alongside the military operation that will continue," said Tzipi Livni, Israel's Foreign Minister, on Tuesday. "The diplomatic process is not meant to shorten the window of time of the army's operation, but rather is meant to be an extension of it and to prevent a need for future military operations," she added.

Moshe Kaplinsky, Israel's deputy army chief, said the offensive could end within a few weeks, adding that Israel needed time to complete "clear goals". Israeli officials said fighting could begin to wind down after the weekend, if Hezbollah stops firing rockets.

A peace formula is also beginning to emerge: it includes an understanding on a future prisoner exchange, a deployment of the Lebanese army up to the Israeli border, a Hezbollah pull-back, and the beefing up of an international monitoring force. For the first time, Livni suggested Israel might accept such a force on a temporary basis.

There were signs of differences of emphasis between the British Foreign Office and Downing Street over the conflict.

Kim Howells, a Foreign Office minister, explicitly called for the US to rein in Israel. "I very much hope the Americans will be putting pressure on the Israelis to stop as quickly as possible." he told the BBC. "We understand the pressure the Israeli government is under, but we call on them to look very carefully at the pressure ordinary people are under in southern Lebanon and other parts of Lebanon too ... We want to stop this as quickly as possible".

Israeli airstrikes killed 31 on Tuesday, including a family of nine in Aitaroun. More than 230 civilians in Lebanon have been killed in the past week.

An Israeli man was killed by a Hezbollah rocket in Nahariya in northern Israel, bringing the total of Israeli civilian deaths to 13. The army said 50 missiles were fired on Tuesday at northern Israel, injuring at least 14 people.

Flashpoints

31 Lebanese killed in Israeli air raids. Nine members of one family were killed and four wounded in a strike on their house in the village of Aitaroun. Five were killed in other strikes in the south and two in the Bekaa Valley. An attack on a Lebanese army barracks east of Beirut killed 11 soldiers and wounded 30. A truck carrying medical supplies was hit and its driver killed on the Beirut-Damascus highway. Hezbollah says one of its fighters was killed.


One man killed as he was walking to a bomb shelter in Nahariya, northern Israel. The army said Hezbollah fired 50 missiles, hitting the port and railway depot at Haifa, as well as the towns of Safed, Acre and Kiryat Shmona.


Hundreds evacuated from Beirut in helicopters and boats. HMS Gloucester arrives to start evacuation of Britons. The Orient Queen, a cruise ship capable of carrying 750, sets out from Cyprus, escorted by a US destroyer. - Guardian Unlimited � Guardian Newspapers Limited 2006


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[Nowhere Man]

That's so cool.

All things in moderation.

[Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee]

How about Hizzbollah just give up their war?

How about the international community doing something about them?

It ought not have to have to come to this.


but there are no standards for voting rights in international forums and so the Vote of North Korea counts as much as the vote of South Korea, and the vote of the Sudan counts as much as the vote of the US.

[Hater Depot]

Personally, I would be ok with Israel not bombing civilian targets. That seems like it would be cool to me.

Joo, you always conflate the two points: Hezbollah not giving up does not equal Israel having carte blanche.

[Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee]

Important question: Does Israel act worse than other nations at war? Important question. Plus I don't know of Israel intentionally targeting civilian targets.

I do know they gave an hour notice before they bombed the airport.
and they dropped warning papers on areas they were going to bomb.

If you have some info that I don't well I would like to see it.

[Kuros]

[fiveeagles]

[Hater Depot]

[quote="Joo"]Important question: Does Israel act worse than other nations at war?/quote]

That is the important question. That leaves me with mine:

Who is Israel at war with? Everybody will say, Hezbollah, and I'm sure you would too. So why are their actions those of a nation at war with Lebanon -- Hezbollah doesn't control the airport, the highway, or many of the other places Israel has bombed nor do do they control northern Lebanon which has also been bombed.

[Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee]

Israel is at war with Hizzbollah they are also probably at war with Iran.

The rest is hard to answer, not only for me but for you too.

[Kuros]

[ddeubel]

[Kuros]

[Junior]

[quote="Hater Depot"]

[Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee]

[mindmetoo]

Say what you want about this... there was this somewhat funny bit on CNN.

A CNN reporter is being shown Israeli bomb damage. The Hezbollah guy is terrified. He's making the reporter jog everywhere because he's sure the planes will come back soon. He stops for a bit and shows the reporter what used to be a city block. Israeli planes over flew it with impunity, dumped 240 tons of bunker busters, and flew off with out anyone even throwing a spit ball at their F16s.

Hezbollah guy comments with all the bravado of a guy whose mom raised him to believe he was a prince among men and he still believes that:

"We always teach Israel a lesson."

He says this, I repeat, standing in a pile of rubble which used to be a productive city block which the, errr, school boy Israelis cratered without a thought and were going to do again soon. And he knew it. And he knew his only defense was to run for his life. Which he did right after.

I really had to wonder "what lesson are they teaching the Israelis other than Israel can lay waste to any part of Hezbollah land they damn well want?"

The problem with that part of the word is everyone has their head right up their ass and can't see the reality.

But you know, keep killing each other for religion instead of using the wealth and talent of your nation to build a great economy.