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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
The title of this post just makes me laugh.
Yeah, Harvard and every other real university are just in the habit of awarding degrees for life experience...
There is not one single accredited university that just grants a degree based on work experience. Some give credits for work experience, if you can pass tests. But giving you a 4 year degree because you held a job is total poppycock. If they claim to be accredited, they're not accredited by the same wacky little organization that accredits American and Canadian universities. Darn tootin'. Don't be so naive, please.
Every time immi catches some lazy cracker who thinks he/she can flop into Korea and earn coin with a fake degree, the real teachers here have to go through even more hoops with immigration... marching our asses to the wilds of Mokdong to get our degrees checked again or lord knows what's next. Sorry if I flame idiots like you, but idiots like you cause ALL of us endless amounts of grief. |
I completely agree with Mr. mindmetoo. |
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Cerriowen
Joined: 03 Jun 2006
Location: Pocheon
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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A school near mine did this. You had to have the basics like math and english etc... but the "core studies" they did award credit for life experience. Usually you had to write a paper detailing out exactly what lesson you learned, and how you would apply it in the future.
It's not as easy as it sounds. It's usually like a term paper you do... and you have to have someone who knows what they're talking about review it and agree or disagree to give you credit for it.
They only did it for Master's degrees or teaching certificates though... I think.
http://www.prescott.edu/about/index.html |
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Pak Yu Man
Joined: 02 Jun 2005
Location: The Ida galaxy
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 2:53 am Post subject: |
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Did you hear about the degree from the University of Amsterdam???
Reefer smokers can get a B.S. in Drug Science.
The requirements are:
Rolling 101
Lighting 102
Smoking 420 |
You missed the hardest course there.
Passing 301 and 302.
Light it, tote it and pass it. I know that 3rd one is hard to do, but........
Are you sure this great university name is the actual university awarding the degree. There could be some schmuck sitting in his basement printing off Harvard degrees. They're not the same as a real Harvard degree you know. If your friend comes over with a fake degree...make sure she shuts her mouth. Cause I'll call immi and get her ass deported. There are many like me. People like her cost me money. |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:08 am Post subject: |
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| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| mindmetoo wrote: |
The title of this post just makes me laugh.
Yeah, Harvard and every other real university are just in the habit of awarding degrees for life experience...
There is not one single accredited university that just grants a degree based on work experience. Some give credits for work experience, if you can pass tests. But giving you a 4 year degree because you held a job is total poppycock. If they claim to be accredited, they're not accredited by the same wacky little organization that accredits American and Canadian universities. Darn tootin'. Don't be so naive, please.
Every time immi catches some lazy cracker who thinks he/she can flop into Korea and earn coin with a fake degree, the real teachers here have to go through even more hoops with immigration... marching our asses to the wilds of Mokdong to get our degrees checked again or lord knows what's next. Sorry if I flame idiots like you, but idiots like you cause ALL of us endless amounts of grief. |
I completely agree with Mr. mindmetoo. |
NOt only do I completely agree, it is unusual for mindmetoo to state an opinion so directly. |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:16 am Post subject: |
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| Cerriowen wrote: |
A school near mine did this. You had to have the basics like math and english etc... but the "core studies" they did award credit for life experience. Usually you had to write a paper detailing out exactly what lesson you learned, and how you would apply it in the future.
It's not as easy as it sounds. It's usually like a term paper you do... and you have to have someone who knows what they're talking about revew it and agree or disagree to give you credit for it.
They only did it for Master's degrees or teaching certificates though... I think.
http://www.prescott.edu/about/index.html |
"It's not as easy as it sounds." Are you for real? One term paper (not even a thesis) that you have to have someone who knows what they are talking about review it. Hell, I'm all up for that. One term paper for a degree. Don't get me wrong, work experience would be valid, and should be counted for credit. But for a degree doing just one term paper, no way. Now, I am against the snobbery of higher education. But if Australian universities keep giving out crappy MAs and these schools give out MAs for that little, higher education will start to become worthless.
Second, the part I bolded is one of the stupidest things I have ever heard, EVER. I can't believe you have a valid degree if you are able to say that with a straight face. When I did my thesis, I didn't ask the psyc prof to check it. He wouldn't know the difference between two different architectures for large scale enterprise web applications. OFCOURSE YOU HAVE TO FIND SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT. I am still trying to get over that statement. How did you get your degree and what is it in? |
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dreaming_saturn
Joined: 26 May 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:30 am Post subject: |
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| SeniorEnglish wrote: |
Did you hear about the degree from the University of Amsterdam???
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I actually went to the UvA or a section of it (Universitiet van Amsterdam) - It's number 2 or three in the Netherlands. I know it's just a joke, but geez, I've been in NL for a long ime and hate the smoker image.
To the OP: If the degree is from an accreditied institution I don't see why she'd have a problem. But honestly, I don't think it is, or it will state such as much as "honorary degree". |
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laogaiguk
Joined: 06 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:36 am Post subject: |
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Jerry Springer got an honourary degree from Oxford (seriously, I watched them present it to him on TV, and yes, I always believe TV  ). I forget for what, but still... While it is possible, they usually only give out honourary degrees to people who really deserve it for something special, or for a boost of PR. I highly doubt the OP's one is valid. Sorry. |
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pgplummer
Joined: 10 Jun 2006
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks to most of you that posted here. The school is very much accredited in the United States and yes it is from the real deal not someone�s basement. The hoops to get it are quite complex and do involve a series of papers, tests and references.
The school is not on the unaccredited list as one they have found with fake degrees. When I did my Bachelors I was given a good number of credits based on my own work experience from Michigan State. The school I speak of is not Michigan State but is as well known in Minnesota. Also, these credits transferred to Florida State when I did my Masters. Florida State also granted additional credits towards my Masters based on my further work experience.
So it does happen and does work. I just wanted to see if anyone had earned and entire degree with transcripts based on their experiences. |
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hari seldon
Joined: 05 Dec 2004
Location: Incheon
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| Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks to most of you that posted here. The school is very much accredited in the United States and yes it is from the real deal not someone�s basement. The hoops to get it are quite complex and do involve a series of papers, tests and references.
The school is not on the unaccredited list as one they have found with fake degrees. When I did my Bachelors I was given a good number of credits based on my own work experience from Michigan State. The school I speak of is not Michigan State but is as well known in Minnesota. Also, these credits transferred to Florida State when I did my Masters. Florida State also granted additional credits towards my Masters based on my further work experience.
So it does happen and does work. I just wanted to see if anyone had earned and entire degree with transcripts based on their experiences. |
In a previous post you said your university charges $300 + mailing cost for an official transcript. That's incredible. |
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wylies99
Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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You can earn SOME undergrad credits for SOME work-based training or skills, from almost any college, but a graduate degree? C'mon.  |
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pgplummer
Joined: 10 Jun 2006
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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| hari seldon wrote: |
| pgplummer wrote: |
Thanks to most of you that posted here. The school is very much accredited in the United States and yes it is from the real deal not someone�s basement. The hoops to get it are quite complex and do involve a series of papers, tests and references.
The school is not on the unaccredited list as one they have found with fake degrees. When I did my Bachelors I was given a good number of credits based on my own work experience from Michigan State. The school I speak of is not Michigan State but is as well known in Minnesota. Also, these credits transferred to Florida State when I did my Masters. Florida State also granted additional credits towards my Masters based on my further work experience.
So it does happen and does work. I just wanted to see if anyone had earned and entire degree with transcripts based on their experiences. |
In a previous post you said your university charges $300 + mailing cost for an official transcript. That's incredible. |
Florida State wanted $300 (approx. CDN funds) to supply me with 10 sealed transcripts and that price included sending the one directly to the school I chose. I was able to get around that by having a friend of mine pick them up and send them all to me and I sent the one to the school along with the rest of my paperwork.
I was just shocked at the cost they charged to ship it. I probably was not as specific when I posted that price in the earlier post. I think each transcript was $10 and the shipping was like $150 both US funds so converted to CDN funds is about $300.
Anyway, this has nothing to do with this thread. I have no problems with my own. I have had no problems with obtaining my E2 aside from the costs and the learning of the more recent changes.
Although, the friends sister I spoke of has just landed a sweet position back at home. So she will not be coming to Korea after all.
CHEERS |
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Homer
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Sorry but it most likely won't fly.
These kinds of institutes are not the same as universities and degrees earned that way are not considered on par with other regular degrees. This does not take anything away from your friends abilities or qualifications but it means that it would be surprising that this type of degree would be accepted as valid to obtain an E-2 visa here.
I could be wrong and if so, good for your friend. However, I think this is a dead end issue. |
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hellofaniceguy
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:11 am Post subject: |
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You're asking folks for advice on a korean immigration matter....seems to me the only correct answer will be from the man....but...then again.....we all know how answers can differ from one immigration office to the next.
Still...you need to ask immigration.
They are only concerned with the degree being legit....it could be in basket weaving for all they care....just so long it's from a valid uni. |
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ThePoet
Joined: 15 May 2004
Location: No longer in Korea - just lurking here
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| Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 7:38 am Post subject: |
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Many accredited and reputable universities will do portfolio assessments of prior life experiences (PLA's). You have to have a lot of documentation and it must be completely relevant to your programme of studies. However, the PLA will usually only be acceptable for a certain percentage of "non-residency" credits toward graduation.
As well, most universities will accept CLEP (Credit for Life Experience Program) examinations to be credited to your degree as well. With this, you actually need to take an examination that verifies your knowledge in a subject area. The exam usually directly relates to a specific course.
Three universities in America that are fully accredited and state approved will actually accept a full B.A.'s worth of credits based on PLA's and exams (CLEP, DANTES, and GRE Subject exams). They are Regents University, Charter Oak State College, and Thomas Edison State College.
To find out more on how to receive a degree through one of those three universities, go to www.bain4weeks.com and read how some people actually took a month of their life and did nothing but study and write tests and eventually gain enough credits to gain B.A.'s
If you truly hae enough life's experience in a subject, you can get a degree without classes. But it is very difficult.
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ThePoet
Joined: 15 May 2004
Location: No longer in Korea - just lurking here
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| Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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| So it does happen and does work. I just wanted to see if anyone had earned and entire degree with transcripts based on their experiences. |
If you have 90 credits worth of transcripts from a variety of schools and in different concentrations, you can submit them to Athabasca University (www.athabascau.ca) and they will, after completing an assessment on them, award you with a 3-year B.G.S. (Bachelor of General Studies).
It is one of the only "no residency' bachelors degrees available to people.
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