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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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Not at all. Its a valid point what with so many westerners no adopting kids from Asia for example. |
As much as I disagree with Jinju (or most definitely disagree with his "debating" style), he is not a troll. I thought so at first too though  |
Who is debating? Im right, everyone else is wrong. Theres no room for debate;) |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Location: Goseong
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:16 am Post subject: |
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| jinju wrote: |
| Who is debating? Im right, everyone else is wrong. Theres no room for debate;) |
And the winner for most arrogant person of the year goes to...
*the envelope please*
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ChopChaeJoe
Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Location: Seoul
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 5:43 am Post subject: |
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| God no. But it is nice to adopt if you think you could do a good job. |
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jaderedux

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Lurking outside Seoul
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Answer my question: if you adoptd a Buddhist child would you force Christianity on the child. yes or no? I bet you would feel righ at home 400 years ago burning people alive to force Christianity on others. Right? |
WTF is a matter with you??? A buddhist child? What the hell does that mean? Do you think I came out of the womb with a rosary and my cathecism book? What a moronic question!
I was baptised a Catholic. I was raised a catholic but I was not BORN a catholic. I went through various stages as I grew up. For a while raging atheist mostly cuz it ticked off my parents.
I thought Buddhism was cool and studied alot about it in High School and Uni. and have great respect for the tenets.
But all in all I am catholic now. Definately not a perfect one. And yes I married a catholic.
Babies are not born anything. They are taught and given beliefs from their parents. And when they become reasoning adults (something you seem to have avoided) they can choose to believe as they will.
I have a sister who is a Baptist and a brother who thinks God is a bunch a hooey. So that being born anything is well my friend um..in a word...CRAP.
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Wrench
Joined: 07 Apr 2005
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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I frankly don't want to have any kids. I got out of a messed up relationship now I don't even want a girlfriend. Kinda hard to have kids if no opposite sex is around
That and maybe because I was severly abused as a child.. That or just because I have a social disatachment disorder. |
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Snowmeow

Joined: 03 Oct 2005 Location: pc room
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 9:06 am Post subject: |
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Don't want kids! Excellent!
Join the "Voluntary Human Extinction Movement". May we live long and die out. Thank you for not breeding. http://www.vhemt.org/ |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 9:40 am Post subject: |
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It was "wrong" not to make this thread have a poll feature  |
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Ody

Joined: 27 Jan 2003 Location: over here
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:39 pm Post subject: |
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I've asked a lot of women why they had or wanted to have kids, and some of the most common answers:
- I like the idea of a little me
- I won't feel complete without a baby
- I love the idea of someone who will love me unquestionably
- I need some extra $ on my welfare check (okay I made that one up)
Now think about how selfish those reasons sound. They really were the most common answers I've heard from women about the subject.
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excuse me for saying so, but your friends sound like the dumbest variety of females that populate this planet. i'd find new ones immediately!
being a woman myself, i have many friends who have had babies with whom this was a frequent conversation back when we were in our late 20s/early30s, and the reasons you list never made our lists.
here we go! Qinella meet Kermo:
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| I love kids. I enjoy being around them and I think I'd be a good Mom. I imagine that the world would be a better place if it had more well-loved, well-educated people in it, so I will do my best to create some of those and pass on the gifts my parents have given me. I look forward to the growth and learning involved for me too. |
yes. |
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potblackettle

Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:35 am Post subject: |
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The way I see it... there are inumerable numbers of children with NO PARENTS so why does everyone think their specific genes need to be multiplied?
I think we should take care of the kids already here before we go popping more out. I plan to adopt little rainbow munchkins.
There's no reason for the OP to feel guilty. Realizing that you don't want kids is very responsible, you're going with your gut feeling rather than being pressured into something society says is necessary. If you don't want kids, then you (and any kid you had) are not going to be happy.
Good for you I say. Besides, by being a good teacher you are doing your part to help make better, more intelligent kids for the future. |
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potblackettle

Joined: 23 Aug 2006 Location: South Korea
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:43 am Post subject: |
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"Not having kids? I think everyone has a built in desire to want them. Even people who say they don't. It is ingrained biology to want offspring. People who do not have kids tend to lead miserable lives once they are passed their prime. The thought of being 45+ without a person in the world who cares about you is a disturbing thought. Once your life is on the downward slope, family becomes all that matters. You will have a house, a car, a bank account and comfort by then. What will it matter once you've got it all?"
This is a total load of tripe. What a limited, narrow view this person has...
I'm sorry but somehow I don't think your "opinion" on how miserable people without kids are holds much water.
I've known plenty of older folks without kids who were perfectly happy. They dedicated themselves to being teachers, mentors and other necessary things.
My dearest friend and beloved mentor died at 85. He had no children of his own, but had "adopted" dozens. He had worked in film for years and found plenty of young people like myself to keep him company. During the last years of his life his house was always filled with young people. He passed on his knowledge and stories about the film industry. He taught us to rebuild cameras and find beautiful shots... We watched movies and cooked meals. And more than anything else he taught us that there is no "set path" for anyone. That you make the choices and you make your life a joy or a heavy sorrow. He was never alone... and when he died he had more "children" to mourn him than if he had ever been married and reproduced. |
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princess
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: soul of Asia
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Of course it's not wrong! the world has toooooooo many stinking people anyways. There is no law that says you MUST have kids. I think many marriages would be better if there were no kids or only 1 kid involved. My parents just had me and that's A-OK...Oh, yeah POTBLACKKETTLE, your friend is better off remaining single, too, rather than settling like many people do. |
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Feloria
Joined: 02 Sep 2006
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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Just yesterday I went to a doctors' appt. When I was waiting in the lobby, this guy came up to me and said "So, do you have any kids"?
I said "No".
He said "Are you married"?
I said "No".
His response: "Oh, I guess things haven't worked out for you then".
GEEZ! |
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coolsage
Joined: 28 Jan 2003 Location: The overcast afternoon of the soul
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Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Ya-ta Boy"]
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Is it selfish of me?
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The people who use the word 'selfish' to describe people who deliberately didn't have kids are the same people who got their girlfriend pregnant in the back of the VW beetle when both of them were drunk at the high school prom. They are just trying to make you feel as guilty as they feel for hating the fact that they are parents and are miserable about it. If you manage to get knocked up in the back of a VW beetle, you're very limber indeed. It's difficult to conceive(!) of the position that would entail. I, however, once administered cunnilingus in the front of a Morris Mini. |
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captain kirk
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:50 am Post subject: |
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'People who are past their prime, 45 plus, and without kids, without a person in the world to care about them, are usually miserable'. The poster Worldwide wrote this. I haven't quoted it exactly but I think that's the jist.
Well, then, is one supposed to have kids just to have someone in the world to care about one? And that care is the care of a child; dependence. Yes, it's nice to be needed and in the case of having children the parent feels absolutely needed. Dependence.
I've met some spinsters and rogue males past their prime and yes, some of them did seem 'miserable'. One was an odd sort of woman who came to the hagwon, a spinster librarian type, very pinched looking and hung up. I think her problem was she saw the glass as half full. She focused on the lack, on being childless and thus, supposedly...
...without the chirping sounds of kid's laughter bringing sunshine all around. I think there really is some wonderful connection and the joy of parenting is real. But there are some people who are stubbornly childless because they don't want to be parents enough.
And it's a big job. Hopefully they branch out and skip the moping mode. There are many ways to love your time in the world. I'm older and don't have kids and don't plan to. I was thinking about the glass being half full. Then I thought about reincarnation.
If you believe in reincarnation, and I do, there is no end. I've been married countless times. Sometimes I've been the mother. Other times the father. And I will be again. Probably for the majority of the lifetimes this soul has had, and will have, I have been and will be a parent.
But this time not. It's like a vacation  |
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spike.matt
Joined: 16 Feb 2006
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Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 5:54 am Post subject: |
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| To answer the question of whether or not it is selfish to not want children, Yes, it is selfish. To want children is selfish as well, but it is natural. Right, Wrong, that I don't know. |
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