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jaderedux

Joined: 10 Jan 2003 Location: Lurking outside Seoul
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| I totally get why Kermo wants to marry a practicing christian because I'm the exact opposite. I've got a whole list of relgions (all the ones that believe in one or more gods) that I would never consider. There are some things that you just HAVE to have in common to be happy and there is nothing racist or elitist about it. Why marry someone you know has entirelyl different beliefs than you do? How is that going to work out to be happily ever after? If you are not strong in your beliefs, maybe it can. But if your beliefs are a big part of who you are, then really, how could it work out. Can anyone honestly see me marrying an animal eater? So how is it different for Kermo? She knows what is right for her. |
Exactly! Good point. It would be like me marrying a vegan. Wouldn't work and why would anyone diametrically opposed to the killing of animals want to marry a meat eater.
Good for you petlover for bringing up such a salient and good point!
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Tiger Beer

Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Natalia wrote: |
| I really think staying in Korea is going to be quite difficult for you if you are looking to get married though. |
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Practically speaking, I'd say you need to head back to the West to open up a broader range of possibilities for yourself. (That is, if you're not interested in K-men). |
Agree with both.
Foreign male expat ESL teachers in Korea generally aren't the christian marriage-minded settling-down types - generally.
If they are, then they'd probably end up with a christian Korean woman to settle down with in Korea, or they'll head back to the west to wherever they want to settle down and look for one there.
Part of settling down means being in the place where you want to settle down, wherever that may be.
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Regarding other parts of the thread blasting Kermo for knowing what she wants out of life - a western-thinking christian-minded man. Nothing is wrong with a person who has a sense of what they want. Its not a whole lot to ask either. But sadly (because we'd miss Kermo if her presense in the community is missing), it'll be an immensely easier to find back in the West however. |
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pauly

Joined: 24 Sep 2004 Location: Incheon
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 6:22 pm Post subject: |
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Hey, why is religious preference discriminatory? I don't mean to be offensive, but how many people here would date someone that is obese, an amputee, or someone that has a conjoined twin? Having a religious preference is no more discriminatory that any of those, and others...it's just that, preference.
Jinju, if you were still single, would you honestly say that you would be open to dating, and eventually marry, someone that is a 250 lb. crossdresser that is very public about her lifestyle? Hmmmmm...I'm going to assume not. That's a bit close-minded and discriminatory, isn't it? I know, it's a bit of an extreme case, but is it really any different?
For some of the others, how is Kermo's preference different in any way, shape or form than your preference to date Korean women over "overweight Western women?" According to some of the things said on this thread, that's downright rascist and discriminatory at the same time. Shiza...talk about hypocrisy. And if you don't have a preference for K-girls over "overweight Western women", I don't see you slamming all the posters that do.
I, for one, don't want to date and marry someone that is obese. Is it because I hate obese people? No, I just happen to have a preference for women that are healthy because I live an active lifestyle and I want to eventually marry someone that will go inline skating with me, play some volleyball or squash, go hiking every summer weekend in the Rockies, ski...you get the picture. Is there something wrong with that? No. Is it wrong for Kermo to want to go to church with her family, husband included, to pray, worship and fellowship with other believers every Sunday? Hell no. Sheesh, talk about double standards. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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p.s. no Buddhists or Muslims. Diametrically opposed religions AND cultures = double whammy of doom = not smrt.
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re: p.s. I quite agree.
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Oh, my. I hope this is all an elaborate, wicked troll... |
Meh, I met a Serbian/Bosnian-Muslim couple in Korea in 1996. They seemed pretty happy. |
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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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Meh, I met a Serbian/Bosnian-Muslim couple in Korea in 1996. They seemed pretty happy. |
Impossible. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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| flotsam wrote: |
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Meh, I met a Serbian/Bosnian-Muslim couple in Korea in 1996. They seemed pretty happy. |
Impossible. |
Their six-year-old daughter didn't seem to think so. |
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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
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| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
Meh, I met a Serbian/Bosnian-Muslim couple in Korea in 1996. They seemed pretty happy. |
Impossible. |
Their six-year-old daughter didn't seem to think so. |
Kidnapped. |
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canuckistan Mod Team


Joined: 17 Jun 2003 Location: Training future GS competitors.....
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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Divorce does carry a stigma, and it's a decision I struggled with as a Christian. I wanted out for years, but didn't want to compromise my vows, my integrity and my faith. I believe that ultimately I made a choice that I can support Bibilically, but not every Christian might agree. This takes me even further out of the running.
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If a man vows to honour and respect you and consistently doesn't, the deal is *off*...simple as that.
You can love your enemy, but you don't have to live with him. |
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crazylemongirl

Joined: 23 Mar 2003 Location: almost there...
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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Sheesh, talk about double standards. |
Thank you for pointing that out. |
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EFLtrainer

Joined: 04 May 2005
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Tiger Beer wrote: |
| Natalia wrote: |
| I really think staying in Korea is going to be quite difficult for you if you are looking to get married though. |
| Corporal wrote: |
Practically speaking, I'd say you need to head back to the West to open up a broader range of possibilities for yourself. (That is, if you're not interested in K-men). |
Foreign male expat ESL teachers in Korea generally aren't the christian marriage-minded settling-down types - generally.
If they are, then they'd probably end up with a christian Korean woman to settle down with in Korea, or they'll head back to the west to wherever they want to settle down and look for one there.
Part of settling down means being in the place where you want to settle down, wherever that may be.
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Regarding other parts of the thread blasting Kermo for knowing what she wants out of life - a western-thinking christian-minded man. Nothing is wrong with a person who has a sense of what they want. Its not a whole lot to ask either. But sadly (because we'd miss Kermo if her presense in the community is missing), it'll be an immensely easier to find back in the West however. |
Hey, *I'm* a marriage-minded expat...
I have long believed that one should absolutely figure out what they need in a relationship. (Notice I did not say want.) Once I did that, it made it a whole lot esier to avoid wasting time on relationships that were really nothing more than killing time - and taking you off the market, so doubly so. Knowing yourself, your needs, is vital. I actually came up with five characterisitcs/behaviors/beliefs that were essential and two more that were very important, but depending on all factors combined, I could live without.
A great butt didn't make the list, but it was a close call.
There is nothing racist about it unless the reasons themselves are racist. |
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simone

Joined: 15 Jan 2003 Location: Now Mostly @ Home
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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Good that you know what you want, Kermo!
Someone here mentioned discriminating against vegans! Damn straight! Even lacto-ovo-vegetarians are too unfun for me.
At the time I was single, I was actively discriminating against anyone UNCOOL.
I also wouldn't have considered anyone who wasn't willing to live with me at least a couple of years before getting married. Yes, and also wouldn't have considered a teetotaller, someone who didn't like travelling, and gasp! maybe even serious sports nuts.
My hubby and I are both non-believers, and I'm glad. I think what it comes down to is a meeting of the minds with their spouse, and if you begrudge people wanting that, you're a kneejerk troll.
Kermo might see singing children's songs about Jesus a nice way of spending time together before bed. Or church picnics, or this or that thing church-community related. Should she have to give up this part of her future, just to "be fair?"
Be fair to yourself, and your chosen future, Kermo. It'll be your family - you choose how you want to make it. |
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Junior

Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Location: the eye
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 2:10 am Post subject: |
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So you're looking for someone?
Always the way that when you're in that state of mind you never find anyone. However when you're genuinely disinterested, involved with someone already, the potential suitors come knocking your door down. The way to get a lot of boyfriends/girlfriends is to get married. if you're single or available, nobody's interested.
the last thing anybody wants, is someone who actually wants them. |
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Apple Scruff
Joined: 29 Oct 2003
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:31 am Post subject: |
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| If you can't get along with someone just because they have different beliefs than you, you are a weak-minded boob. And you're probably boring, too. |
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Corporal

Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:57 am Post subject: |
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| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
Meh, I met a Serbian/Bosnian-Muslim couple in Korea in 1996. They seemed pretty happy. |
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WorldWide
Joined: 28 Apr 2006
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:06 am Post subject: |
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| flotsam wrote: |
| RACETRAITOR wrote: |
Meh, I met a Serbian/Bosnian-Muslim couple in Korea in 1996. They seemed pretty happy. |
Impossible. |
Why? For all you know they were diplomats, programmers or engineers making a lot more money than English teachers. |
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