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Yongsan Foreigner School Tussle: US vs Them
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EFLtrainer



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On the other hand wrote:
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On the other hand wrote:
A far as I know from talking to students, Christian organizations(the Salesians for example) already have some sort of arrangemet with the Ministry Of Education to run schools that are essentially public. So this probably wouldn't strike the average Korean, Christian or otherwise, as particularly unusual.


Not concerned with it's usualness , but it's appropriateness.


But the "usualness" kind of determines the appropriateness, no? If the average Koreans as a society accept the practice, what do you think is going to be accomplished by an ex-pat led campaign targetting one particular instance of it?


Foreign school.
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JeJuJitsu



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EFLtrainer wrote:
Moldy Rutabaga wrote:
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Not even a majority of Koreans are Christian.

They passed the 50% mark a few years ago, at least statistically. And those people have a right to have a say in their children's education as well.

These are expensive schools and people will vote with their feet if the religious content is too pushy or restrictive.

Ken:>


Stats? Links?


Full of crap. Korea is 26% Christian, but Christians, like the gays, like to inflate their percentages.

Religions:
Definition Field Listing
no affiliation 46%, Christian 26%, Buddhist 26%, Confucianist 1%, other 1%

https://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ks.html
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EFLtrainer



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JeJuJitsu wrote:
...Confucianist 1%...


Since when is Confucianism a religion? It's philosophy and theories of social organization, is it not?
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JeJuJitsu



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PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

EFLtrainer wrote:
JeJuJitsu wrote:
...Confucianist 1%...


Since when is Confucianism a religion? It's philosophy and theories of social organization, is it not?


usually, but not 100% of the time, hence the 1%. you really need to read more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confucianism
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Nowhere Man



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 1:22 am    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

I'm retty sure this is already being discussed elsewhere. Perhaps it was the General forum?

The last I read was that plans had been being made for a long while, then it was suddenly revealed that the proposed management had intention that didn't match what was originally agreed to and that the whole thing was going back to the drawing board.

And that's probablya good thing. Let this first one be slowly and properly sorted out. As I understand it, the funding is spread in such a way that it will not be religious.

Personally, I think it's underhanded to get involved in planning a foreign school with a semi-secret agenda to make a christian school.
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On the other hand



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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On the other hand wrote:
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On the other hand wrote:
A far as I know from talking to students, Christian organizations(the Salesians for example) already have some sort of arrangemet with the Ministry Of Education to run schools that are essentially public. So this probably wouldn't strike the average Korean, Christian or otherwise, as particularly unusual.


Not concerned with it's usualness , but it's appropriateness.



But the "usualness" kind of determines the appropriateness, no? If the average Koreans as a society accept the practice, what do you think is going to be accomplished by an ex-pat led campaign targetting one particular instance of it?


Foreign school.


Ah, I see. Thanks for filling in the textual and mental blanks for me. Embarassed

Still, though. Will this school be the ONLY educational option available for foreigners living in Seoul?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Will this school be the ONLY educational option available for foreigners living in Seoul?


No, I'm sure it isn't. But this school is somehow (I haven't been following the details of this policy) a sort of flag-ship for a new international school policy. Now that I have thoroughly educated you on the subtleties of this topic, I will bow out before I get flamed.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
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Will this school be the ONLY educational option available for foreigners living in Seoul?


No, I'm sure it isn't. But this school is somehow (I haven't been following the details of this policy) a sort of flag-ship for a new international school policy. Now that I have thoroughly educated you on the subtleties of this topic, I will bow out before I get flamed.


No flame. As someone who has a child who may be attending a foreign school in Seoul in the next few years, I have been following the issues related to foreign schools in Korea. From what I understand the EU Chamber reps balked at the level of Korean administrative/management control of the new school and this started the whole mess. But to answer the basic question the following is provided.

Foreign schools in Seoul

Most of these foreign schools require students to hold a foreign passport for admission. Dependent on the school entrance can be based on competency which will determined by on entrance examination.

Montessori School
Entry age: 30 months to 6 years of age.
Curriculum: Montessori curriculum.
School bus: available (Hannam-dong, Itaewon, UN Village, Ichon, Yeoksam,Seongbuk, Bangbae / Banpo, Gangnam)
Address: Hilltop Apt.,UN Village,1-44 Hannam-dong, Yongsan-gu, Seoul(140-211)
Tel: 82-2-795-8418
Fax: 82-2-795-8439
E-mail: [email protected]

Seoul Foreign School (SFS)
Grade levels: British School (preschool)/Elementary School/ MiddleSchool/ High School
School bus: available
Address: 55 Yonhui-dong, Seodaemun -gu,Seoul (120-113)
Tel: 82-2-330-3100
Fax: 82-2-335-1857
E-mail: [email protected]


Seoul International School (SIS)
Grade levels: Elementary School/Middle School/ High School
School bus: available
Up to 70 percent of students are American
Address: Songpa-gu PO Box 47, Seoul (138-600)
Tel: 82-2-2233-4551
Fax: 82-31-759-5133
E-mail: [email protected]


Lycee Francais de Seoul
Grade levels: Kindergarten / Elementary School/ Middle School / High School
School bus: available
Address: 98-3 Panpo4-dong, Socho-gu,Seoul (137-044)
Tel: 82-2-593-5444
Fax: 82-2-593-5444
E-mail: [email protected]


Deutsche Schule Seoul
Grade levels: Pre-school and Kindergarten to 10-year education program
School bus: not available
Address: 4-13 Hannam-dong, Yongsangu, Seoul
Tel: 82-2-792-0797
Fax: 82-2-797-1954
E-mail: [email protected]


Centennial Christian School
Grade levels: Pre-school (4 years old) to grade 12
School bus: not available for most areas of Seoul
Address: 800-20 Wolgye 2-dong, Nowon-gu, Seoul(139-724)
Tel: 82-2-905-9275/6
Fax: 82-2-905-9277


Chinese Primary School
Grade levels: Grade 1 to 6
Address: 15 Chungmuro 1-ga, Jung-gu, Seoul
Tel: 82-2-776-3893
Fax: 82-2-776-3728

Chinese Middle & High School
Grade levels: Grade 7 to 9 (middle school) and grade 10 to 12 (high school)
Address: 89-1 Yeonhui-dong, Seodaemun-gu, Seoul
Tel: 82-2-324-0664
Fax: 82-2-325-0664

Franciscan School
Grade levels: Kindergarten (over two and a half years old)
School bus: available
Address: 707 Hannam-dong, Yongsangu, Seoul
Tel: 82-2-798-2195
Fax: 82-2-798-6171
E-mail:[email protected]


Japanese School
Grade levels: Kindergarten (4 years), Elementary School (6 years) and Junior High School (12-15 years)
School bus: available Program for children with disabilities
Address: 84 Gaepo-dong, Gangnam-gu, Seoul
Tel: 82-2-572-7011
Fax: 82-2-572-6972
E-mail: [email protected]

International Christian School
Grade levels: Elementary & High School
School bus: available Branch schools in Uijeongbu and Songtan
Address: 1-206 Yongsan-dong 2-ga, Seoul Y.S.P.O. Box 62, Seoul (140-600)
Tel: 82-2-773-1993
Fax: 82-2-773-2976
E-mail: [email protected]

Korea International School
Grade levels: Pre-school to grade 12
Curriculum: Kindergarten, ESL, Elementary, Middle and High School
School bus: available
Address: 155 Gaepo-dong, Gangnamgu
Tel: 82-2-561-0509
Fax: 82-2-576-0709
E-mail: [email protected]


Korean Kent Foreign School
Grade levels: Grade 1 (5 years old) to 12
School bus: available
Address: 18-11 Nung-dong, Gwangjingu, Seoul (143-180)
Tel: 82-2-2201-7091/2
Fax: 82-2-2201-7090
E-mail: [email protected]


Seoul Academy
Grade levels: pre-school (4 years old) to grade 8
School bus: available
Address: 988-5 Daechi-Dong, Gangnam-gu, Seoul
Tel: 82-2-555-1690, 554-2475
Fax: 82-2-562-0451
E-mail: [email protected]


Seoul American Elementary School
Grade levels: kindergarten (5 years old) to Elementary school
School bus: available in army base
Address: Yongsan Army Base, SAES, Unit 15549, APO AP 96205
Tel: 82-2-7916-4613
Fax: 7916-4906

Seoul American High School
Grade levels: Grade 7 to 12 (ROTC program)
School bus: available for military and government employees children only
Address: Yongsan Army Base, DPDDS Pacific Korea, APO AP 96205
Tel: 82-2-797-3666/7
Fax: 82-2-7918-8822


http://asianseoul.com/index.php5?section=1&cont=5
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JeJuJitsu wrote:
EFLtrainer wrote:
JeJuJitsu wrote:
...Confucianist 1%...


Since when is Confucianism a religion? It's philosophy and theories of social organization, is it not?


usually, but not 100% of the time, hence the 1%. you really need to read more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confucianism


And I would just suddenly go do a search on Confucianism as a religion because....???

You really should be an ass less.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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