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The legacy of George Bush
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Will George Bush have a good legacy?
Yeah, he will be on the same level as Lincoln
5%
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Yeah, the same as Reagan
2%
 2%  [ 1 ]
Yeah, but less than Reagan
7%
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No, on the same level as Carter
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No, on the same level as Nixon
57%
 57%  [ 22 ]
No, on the same level as Hitler
21%
 21%  [ 8 ]
Worse than Hitler
2%
 2%  [ 1 ]
Total Votes : 38

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WorldWide



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Courageous wrote:

Both sides are pretty much wrong, unfortunately. I'll write about why after I take a leak and a shower.



Here we go.... time for some wishy-washy centrist "can't we all just get along" bullsh*t. NO WE CAN'T! I will not allow anyone to give bush any credit. He is a bad leader, a corrupt leader, a criminal leader and what makes it worse is that people ignore all that out of some lame sense of devotion to the office if the president. Love it or leave it... With us or against us...

That doesn't work anymore. CORRUPTION deserves punishment!


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sundubuman



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WorldWide wrote:
TheFonz wrote:

Bush is on the same level as Carter. Jimmy was a bad president president, but his intentions were good.



bush has been selling your country out to the energy sector from day one! He is horribly corrupt and has done nothing for your country. He is a puppet president who wants to abuse authority as much as possible to enrich his masters.

Please list his accomplishments that had good intentions.




You are like the perfect storm of anti-americanism........deluded thinking coupled with a single-minded focus on my country........it's educational to observe your posts, thanks. keep stirring your pot of conspiracies......

may I ask where you are from? I'm guessing Korea.
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Captain Courageous



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Here we go.... time for some wishy-washy centrist "can't we all just get along" bullsh*t.

Not so much.

The problem with making an honest assessment of the actions of an American president from the likes of someone like you is that your inherent hatred of America creates an obvious bias, where everything he does, regardless of context, is BAD, and everything he chooses NOT to do is GOOD.
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Captain Courageous



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Please list his accomplishments that had good intentions.


Here's a couple off the top oif my head:
1. Tax cuts when running a surplus.
2. Opening relations with India.
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WorldWide



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Courageous wrote:

Here's a couple off the top oif my head:
1. Tax cuts when running asurplus.
2. Opening relations with India.




??? That's it? 5.5 years and that's all you can come up with?

1.) Tax cuts that benefit the rich.
2.) Clinton opened relations with India. bush is taking the credit.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Tax cuts that grew real revenue by a whole lot.
2. No, he didn't.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WorldWide wrote:
TheFonz wrote:

Bush is on the same level as Carter. Jimmy was a bad president president, but his intentions were good.



bush has been selling your country out to the energy sector from day one! He is horribly corrupt and has done nothing for your country. He is a puppet president who wants to abuse authority as much as possible to enrich his masters.

Please list his accomplishments that had good intentions.


No doubt he is killing the economy. He is has a terrible stance on domestic issues and I wish he was more of a smooth-talking diplomat. That is where my comparison of Johnson came in. He shares the same arrogance and stuborness. Let me repeat George Bush is a bad president, and I think America deservers better. However I do agree with what we are doing in Iraq now that we are there. If we left today it would be just another mess for a future president to clean up. Did W go into Iraq for the sole intention of oil? Yes that played into it, but with the intelligence that he had at the time of the invasion I don't blame him for invading Iraq. Of course soldiers getting killed is tragic, but it would be even more tragic not to finish the job they started.

I agree with the president's reslove to spread liberty to all nations. Does he go about it the best way? No! In fact he can create more of a mess by stirring the pot. Does he intend to stir it up just to line his friends pockets? No.


I think my view of Bush lies somewhere in the middle-left.


Let's ask Dan Froomkin what he thinks. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/blog/2006/07/06/BL2006070600772.html


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WorldWide



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Captain Courageous wrote:
1. Tax cuts that grew real revenue by a whole lot.
2. No, he didn't.



1.) Tax cuts, while running a $765 billion deficit??? Real smart....!
2.) Clinton.

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We can advance these values without engaging in rich-country protectionism. Indeed, to sustain a consensus for open trade, we must find a way to advance these values as well. That is my motivation, and my only motivation, in seeking a dialogue about the connections between labor, the environment, and trade and development.

Bill Clinton, March 22, 2000, in New Delhi
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. I never said what he did afterwards was smart.
2. Clinton talked to India, he didn't solidify a treaty agreement like Bush did.


You seem to think I actually like the guy or his policies. I don't. At all. I'd rather kill my mother than vote for him or his agenda.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

really? kill your mother?

Bush is kicking ass in so many ways.....

no child left behind legislation

overthrowing the world's most dangerous regime (Saddam)

appointing the world's most powerful African American woman in history, thereby giving lie to the Democratic leftist obsession of tying race to politics, and in so doing, freeing tens of millions of African Americans from their sleepwalking loyalty to a party of rich coastal elitist whites.

ignoring the peanut gallery as amplified by the media

protecting our country from terrorists

telling france and germany and russia and china to screw off when need be
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WorldWide



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sundubuman wrote:


Bush is kicking ass in so many ways.....

no child left behind legislation

overthrowing the world's most dangerous regime (Saddam)

appointing the world's most powerful African American woman in history, thereby giving lie to the Democratic leftist obsession of tying race to politics, and in so doing, freeing tens of millions of African Americans from their sleepwalking loyalty to a party of rich coastal elitist whites.

ignoring the peanut gallery as amplified by the media

protecting our country from terrorists

telling france and germany and russia and china to screw off when need be




I really hope this is sarcasm... but I fear you are serious Rolling Eyes
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sundubuman



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 9:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fear not my child...fear not.


for someday you too can see the world without the shackles of university professors, pop culture, and an innate youthful hatred of conservative ideals controlling the large majority of your cranial activity.


in other words, you too can grow up.

good luck.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 9:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sundubman was just added to my stupid list.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WorldWide wrote:
sundubuman wrote:


Bush is kicking ass in so many ways.....

no child left behind legislation

overthrowing the world's most dangerous regime (Saddam)

appointing the world's most powerful African American woman in history, thereby giving lie to the Democratic leftist obsession of tying race to politics, and in so doing, freeing tens of millions of African Americans from their sleepwalking loyalty to a party of rich coastal elitist whites.

ignoring the peanut gallery as amplified by the media

protecting our country from terrorists

telling france and germany and russia and china to screw off when need be




I really hope this is sarcasm... but I fear you are serious Rolling Eyes


So where are you from Worldwide? Why do you keep ignoring the question?

So if he is as bad as Hitler, then what are people doing to try to stop him? If i thought he was Hitler, I would join Bin O Laden and start warring against the US.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheney uses Mideast as campaign issue
By NANCY BENAC, Associated Press Writer
Fri Jul 21, 6:10 PM ET

TAMPA, Fla. - Vice President Dick Cheney on Friday pointed to the fighting between Israel and Hezbollah as fresh evidence of the ongoing "battle against terrorism" that underscores the need to keep President Bush's Republican allies in control of Congress.

"This conflict is a long way from over," Cheney said at a fundraising appearance for a GOP congressional candidate. "It's going to be a battle that will last for a very long time. It is absolutely essential that we stay the course."



Cheney's visit to Tampa helped raise about $200,000 for the campaign of Gus Bilirakis, a state legislator who is running for the Tampa Bay area congressional seat his father, Michael, is vacating.

"Gus is going to remember that the first order of business is to protect the American people and to support the men and women who defend us in time of war," Cheney told the audience at a $500-a-ticket fundraising reception.

"There's still hard work ahead in the war on terror."

Cheney said that as Republicans make their case to voters in the midterm elections, "it's vital that we keep issues of national security at the top of the agenda." He faulted Democrats in Congress who have pushed for a timetable for withdrawing Americans from Iraq, saying that would send the wrong message to "terrorists".

"If anyone thinks the conflict is over or soon to be over, all they have to do is look at what's happening in the Middle East today," he said.

Bilirakis' Democratic opponent, Phyllis Busansky, scheduled a news conference near the hotel where Cheney was appearing to argue that the Bush-Cheney administration had failed on both domestic and foreign policy fronts. In addition, a handful of demonstrators gathered outside the hotel to protest what they said were problems with the administration's prescription drug program.

Cheney has been traveling extensively on behalf of GOP candidates as the party tries to maintain control of Congress in the November elections.

Later in the day, at a rally for 8,000 troops at Fort Stewart, Ga., Cheney promised that the United States will keep fighting in Iraq until it can declare victory.

"We have only two options in Iraq: victory or defeat. And I want you to know, as members of the United States military, the American people do not support a policy of retreat of defeatism," Cheney said. "We want to complete the mission, get it done right and return with honor."

Cheney also administered the re-enlistment oath to Cpl. Jerrod Fields, a 24-year-old Army gunner from Chicago who was determined to remain in the ranks after losing his left leg last year to a bomb blast in Iraq.

"I wasn't going to let the "bad guys", "the enemy", affect a decision I'd already made," said Fields, who was wounded while driving a Bradley armored vehicle near Rustamayah in February 2005.

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Associated Press Writer Russ Bynum in Fort Stewart, Ga., contributed to this report.
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