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Korean-Americans teaching English in Korea
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sandy



Joined: 27 May 2006
Location: London, England

PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 8:15 pm    Post subject: Korean-Americans teaching English in Korea Reply with quote

I am a fully qualified teacher with almost ten years of teaching experience in the U.S. and would like to teach in Korea for one year. I have heard from some people that Korean Americans are not paid as much or treated as well as foreign teachers who don't look Korean. Is this really the case? Would I be not paid as well just because I look Korean even though English is my native language and have many years of teaching experience?
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JZer



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess one problem for some employers is that cannot determine whether you are Korean-American or Korean. It is stupid but, hmm. I guess that is how Korea works.
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CdnEducator



Joined: 23 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:33 am    Post subject: Bilinguals Reply with quote

I think these days expats of Korean ethnicity, for example Korean-Americans, are valued for their bilingual skills. I've seen jobs that are specifically for bilinguals. I think you can find lots of workplaces in Korea where expats of Korean ethnicity are treated really well. With a lot of teaching experience, you can find a good job where you should be treated well. Keep researching and asking questions.
Good luck.
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Sody



Joined: 14 May 2006

PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not an issue at all Sandy. The only problems you might have are with the bad schools or hagwons and you want to avoid those places anyhow.

Sody
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JZer



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and some universities. Some people just can't understand that some ethnic Koreans are native speakers of English but don't worry. The demand is high so you will find a job somewhere.
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Roch



Joined: 24 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Korean-Americans teaching English in Korea Reply with quote

sandy wrote:
I am a fully qualified teacher with almost ten years of teaching experience in the U.S. and would like to teach in Korea for one year. I have heard from some people that Korean Americans are not paid as much or treated as well as foreign teachers who don't look Korean. Is this really the case? Would I be not paid as well just because I look Korean even though English is my native language and have many years of teaching experience?


Back in 2001-2002, we had a good Korean American who spoke flawless English. Graduated from Richmond University, he was great with everybody and was paid 25k per class (37 per week and each one was forty minutes in duration).

The company's name is Ewha American Language School. Contact "Patricia" Kim in Head Office at Kangnam Station and try to strike a deal with her.

Another thing to do is contact the Ewha A.L.S. branches in person. There is one in Sinjungdong (turn right when you get to the top of the stairs of Mokdong Station's Exit #7 and walk for about four minutes or so) and one in Sungbuk, Seoul (two stations past Dongdaemun Station; contact my friend Josh for this gig, which starts on August 29th: [email protected]) and one right around the corner from Mapo Station in Yongsan-gu. This branch that boasted more than 1000 pupils was dodgy in a few respects back in the day but Cho Young Gin may have sold his franchise rights to somebody else by now. Anyway, the dude from Virginia worked there and made decent money every month.

PM me if you want to get a few more leads for teaching jobs in Yongsan-gu and other areas of Seoul and Busan.

Take care.

R
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Roch



Joined: 24 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JZer wrote:
and some universities. Some people just can't understand that some ethnic Koreans are native speakers of English but don't worry. The demand is high so you will find a job somewhere.


Darn straight! Lots of Korean-Americans teach E.F.L. in their ancestral homeland and make darn good money doing it.

One should think that Korean-Americans should get the job for a number of patently obvious reasons.

Dear God, the love-hate thing with Whitey and the not uncommon rejection of people whose ancestry is Korean is very disturbing at the least, eh?
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's hard to believe- from a business perspective. If someone can speak the language, and they understand the culture, why not treat them well?

Plus, I know PLENTY of fellow white folks back in the US who can't speak proper English, and I've met PLENTY of Korean-Americans who excel at speaking English. No one can judge a person's speaking or teaching skills solely on their ethnic heritage.
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mateomiguel



Joined: 16 May 2005

PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 6:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wylies99 wrote:
No one can judge a person's speaking or teaching skills solely on their ethnic heritage.


You underestimate your local hagwan director. The fact is that many people CAN and DO judge a person's speaking or teaching skills solely on their ethnic heritage. I've been told with a completely straight face that blonde women can speak better english than brown-haired men.

Of course, no one SHOULD judge a person's speaking or teaching skills solely on their ethnic heritage. But if we could get to the Magical Kindgom of Should we wouldn't be here on this board at all.
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JZer



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If someone can speak the language, and they understand the culture, why not treat them well?


I hope you will be careful with this one. One can find plenty of Korean-Americans or Korean-Canadians who do not speak Korean and know less about Korea than some white ESL teachers. Especially if one of child's parents was not Korean.
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JZer



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the one thing I don't understand is that Korea gives a special visa that allows Koreans who were born in Korea to work freely. Why the f### is Korea giving special rights to people who volunterly gave up his or her Korean citizenship?
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wylies99



Joined: 13 May 2006
Location: I'm one cool cat!

PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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If someone can speak the language, and they understand the culture, why not treat them well?


I hope you will be careful with this one. One can find plenty of Korean-Americans or Korean-Canadians who do not speak Korean and know less about Korea than some white ESL teachers. Especially if one of child's parents was not Korean.


I think we agree- evaluate people as individuals.
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beebee23



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 10:24 pm    Post subject: Just to reiterate. Reply with quote

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JZer



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

beebee 23 wrote,
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Girl you are "KOREAN" and you are the majority there!



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For my students, they soon figure out that I in fact bring the "Real America" to them.


This is a little bit contradicting. If you were born in the U.S., then you are American and do in fact know the real America (whatever that really means) but in a fair share of cases the Korean-American in question is not really Korean unless one wants to base being Korean only on one's complexion. If you want to do that then you are no longer American, according to the definition of American by many Koreans.

Many Koreans teaching here cannot even speak Korea. They don't act the same or hold the same cultural beliefs as Koreans. In most cases they are American. Furthermore unless you are the first generation to be born in America, your parents probably don�t hold you to the same standards as Korean parents. Did your parents send you to some hogwon three hours a day?
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beebee23



Joined: 20 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 11:24 pm    Post subject: ??? Reply with quote

Smile

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