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Would you rather return to Korea or go to a new country?

 
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Return to Korea, build language skills and save money?
Go to Japan and experience a new culture?
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Return to Korea to save money and learn more language?
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Omkara



Joined: 18 Feb 2006
Location: USA

PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:57 am    Post subject: Would you rather return to Korea or go to a new country? Reply with quote

Hey, y'all. I lived in Korea for a year, working in a hagwan, and left as soon as my contract was up. I was more than ready to get back home to get my life and career rolling. Now that I'm here and 'getting things rolling,' I find myself on Dave's ESL everytime a long and eventless weekend rolls around. Though I enjoy my work day more here than I did in a hogwan (I'm teaching college and university students in a community college and in an IEP), I find myself strangely isolated in my own culture. The problem is, once the univeristy years are over, it is much harder to identigy your peer group and to make friends. This was easy to do in Korea. In addition, it's so easy to afford a weekend adventure there...

Anyway, here's my question. I want to work in a college or university. I'm qualified with an MA in Literature and nearly three years of teaching experience (Peace Corps, Russia; Korea and now America). I'm trying to decide between Japan and Korea. I've got survival Korean. Japan would be new and adventurous, but how hard would it be to get a job in a college or uni? Would you prefer the economic and linguistic advantages of living in Korea, or do you think that the life style in Japan would out-weigh those two? Let me add that I'm looking for a lifestyle in which drinking is not obligatory. (I know it's simple as sying 'yes' or 'no', but I want to have more options on the weekend.)
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pegpig



Joined: 10 May 2005

PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had I not met my wife near the end of my 1st year in Korea, I was destined for Taiwan or Japan or elsewhere. I would definitely have liked to have gone out and explored what the world has to offer - even outside of Asia. Money wasn't really an issue either. Obviously. If you go to South America you can't make a lot. But, who cares? I would have been in it for the experience. Now that I'm married to a Korean though, the only places to visit are North America and Europe. The rest of the world is too dangerous. Rolling Eyes

If money's not that important, why not go out and experience something different?
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMHO, the second year in Korea is better for most than the first.

Plus with an MA in English lit, it shouldn't be too hard for you to find a uni job here, especially if you're willing to cast your net beyond Seoul.

I can't compare with Japan, though, because I haven't been there beyond a visa run.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Would you rather return to Korea or go to a new country? Reply with quote

Omkara wrote:
Would you prefer the economic and linguistic advantages of living in Korea, or do you think that the life style in Japan would out-weigh those two?

I much prefer the lifestyle in Korea (from what I've heard in Japan and from my four visits there) but I've never made it up as far as Tokyo so who knows.

but we are talking about you

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Peace Corps, Russia; Korea and now America)

come on, you know you want to add japan to that list. it fits you.

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... an MA in Literature and nearly three years of teaching experience .. Japan would be new and adventurous, but how hard would it be to get a job in a college or uni?

I hear it's very difficult without publications. The market is very competitive. But maybe that's for top tier universities. You could certainly find something agreeable, though if you really want to ensure you get college or university teaching experience then Korea would be a cakewalk in comparison, from all I've ever heard.

seems to be a toss up between going to a new place (japan) versus getting university teaching experience (korea). how about Taiwan? you'd assuredly get both.
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Omkara



Joined: 18 Feb 2006
Location: USA

PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I hear that Taiwan tends to be less than interesting.

It'd be cool to add Japan to the list; but having some language skills makes for a better experience. I've heard about the publication issue, and I'm not interested in publishing in the field. I do want time and freedom to write...

I'm not leaving America until December, at the earliest. I've a contract to teach some writing classes here.

The best thing about the initial move to Korea is the paid-for apartment and ticket, let alone that it is easier to get a uni gig. Is it true that one most generally must begin at the bottom in Japan before getting better gigs, irrespective of experience?
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pastis



Joined: 20 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I think Japan's quite a bit better than Korea in a lot of ways. In fact, I'm probably gonna go back to Tokyo in like a year, and can hardly wait... Korea's decent and all, but compared to Japan... I literally can't think of a single thing so far that's better in Korea. If you prefer Korean food or whatever, you can still find it in abundance in Tokyo (often better quality too). Even money/salary wise, you won't save much more living in Seoul than Tokyo (except you'll probably lose money having to pay rent, which sucks)...
But overall Japan is a nicer country IMO, the lifestyle is easier and the people are generally less of a hassle (even if some of them don't 'like you' per se, they'll at least leave you the hell alone). I also find Japanese culture much more interesting (I find Korea just copies a lot of Japanese stuff)... Not everyone will agree with my appraisal, but that's my take on it.
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sadsac



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Gwangwang

PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Year six and my wife and I are going to take a nice long break at the end of this contract. Return to the Land of the Morning Chaos, unlikely. Certainly looking at new horizons. Smile
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drumpounder



Joined: 20 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am 2 weeks away from the completion of my first contract. It's been good but I'm moving on. I have a great job offer teaching in Laos. I'm all about hot weather. I don't like Korean food and my woman Laotian.

From alot of the stuff I've read here, I hit the jackpot with my job here in Korea. First time...bullseye.

Like Rod Stewart said, "You know what luck is? Luck is believing you're lucky, and having just a little bit of faith."
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SirFink



Joined: 05 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pegpig wrote:
Had I not met my wife near the end of my 1st year in Korea...


If I had a 100 won coin for every time I heard this. Is every long-termer here married to a Korean? Is that the primary reason anyone stays beyond a year? I'm certain it's the primary reason people come charging to the defense of Korea anytime someone criticizes it.
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bucheon bum



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

go to japan and try it out. if you don't like it, korea will still be open to you.
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JZer



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'm certain it's the primary reason people come charging to the defense of Korea anytime someone criticizes it.


Did you ever think that maybe the people don't agree with your opinion? Maybe it has nothing to do with defending Korea.
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