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		Tiger Beer
 
  
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				 Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:44 am    Post subject: 2-hour class with Forensics/Crime Scenes | 
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				Anyone do anything like that?
 
 
I'm looking for a few ideas to develop something along those lines.. | 
			 
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		SeniorEnglish
 
  
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		Richard Krainium
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:53 am    Post subject:  | 
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				You could start out with a preview of CSI if it's a class of adults.  Especially with what's going on with the French guy and the frozen babies.    
 
 
Otherwise, a game of CLUE might work for younger students!   
 
 
SeniorEnglish's link is full of ideas.  Gonna bookmark that one.   
 
 
Great idea, thanks.   | 
			 
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		Hotpants
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:35 am    Post subject:  | 
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				I made up my own 1 hour class on this theme with adults based on the Penguin Reader level 3 'K's First Case' which we read over a semester. This is a good simple who dunnit mystery.
 
 
I got the students to take each other's fingerprints and identify what patterns they had. I also had a mini microscope for them to try and identify which hair belonged to a cat according to a chart I had. Nothing amazing... 
 
 
In another class, I set up the classic alibi game whereby one student has to find out the guilty culprit among the class.
 
 
In another one, I used the 10 most wanted off the FBI homepage and got the students to write down desriptions of the criminals and mock wanted posters.
 
 
You could also try lateral thinking puzzles - eg the broken glass and the water in the room.
 
 
There are some semi-forensic links on my website below. If you have a kids class - try the dissect a frog site (under 'S' for science, I think) Consider it as an autopsy!!
 
 
There is also a kind of strange interactive game link on my site, whereby you have to provide the police responses to soothe the suicide bomber in a stand off situation - maybe under 'G' for games. If the kids are not very young, this might be suitable for the students. | 
			 
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		Sleepy in Seoul
 
  
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				 Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 8:09 am    Post subject:  | 
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				| I was given a lesson like that, only it was while I was at the Police Academy.  Lots of photos of decomposing dead people, talks about blood spatter patterns and morbildly interesting exhibits of bizarre objects found inside various orifices of unnamed people.  My abiding memory, however, is of being told by the lecturer, "At all times, request a helicopter sureveillance of crime scenes."  When we asked if it was always useful, he said. "No, helicopter rides are fun."  True, true... | 
			 
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		dimnd
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 1:28 pm    Post subject: ok | 
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				ok
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		JeJuJitsu
 
  
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				 Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 8:30 pm    Post subject: Re: forensic chemist here... | 
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	  CSI is purely entertainment like Law and Order..
 
 
In one hour they know the drug..find the perp..and then the perp is adjudicated.
 
 
Takes me the better part of a day after adding internal standards, centrifuging (if you are doing a THC..marijuana test ..trying to get the organic layer separated..only five mins there)  , determining polymer chains...using heat block..anywhere from half hr to 4 hrs depending on whether you are looking for THC and higher end of time looking for opiates....benzos.....amphetamines...then you add more solutions to the drug..and put on a GC/MS and depending on what you are looking for can take a few hrs to get your chromatograph printed to see the peaks and target ranges...Hence, a long process.
 
 
If you are off, it is the internal standards and the process must be repeated..
 
 
but any questions ask me...
 
 
my degree is in Forensic Science and Chemistry...
 
 
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Given your impressive creds, how could you miss the fact that CSI does not do all their "work" in an hour.  An episode obviously spans a few days or even weeks most of the time.   You know, like the movie Forrest Gump was 2 hours long, but like, covered more than a 2-hour span of time. | 
			 
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