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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:57 pm    Post subject: Rules for articles... Reply with quote

Hello gentlepeople. Can someone sort me out?

"An" is used before words that start with a vowel.
"An" is used before the word "hour"...is it because the "h" is silent?
If so, then why, "An historic event"? is it because "historic" is an adjective?
If so, then why, "an orange", but, "a red orange"?

From there I get lost... I looked online, but I couldn't find anything that dealt specifically with this. Crying or Very sad

Why do we say, "an hour", and why do we say, "an historic event"?

Does anybody know the rule for this?

Thanks in advance.
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philthy



Joined: 02 Sep 2005
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An article is like an adjective.

"An" is used before any word that begins with a vowel sound not necessarily a vowel.

Hence an hour, as we pronounce "hour" as "our" which begins with a vowel sound (o).

Also "University" is pronounced "you-niversity" and as such starts with a consonant sound (y) and is therefore aUniversity, even though it starts with a vowel.

As for historian, I believe both are correct. It has a consonant beginning sound so it should be "a historian", but many people say "an historian."
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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.cbc.ca/news/indepth/words/ananda.html

Has to do with aspiration. Non-aspirated h's take "an" and aspirated h's take "a".

"historical": first syllable is unstressed which would explain using "an". There are arguments that it should always be "a" (before aspirated h's).

"a red orange"? Isn't it obvious? "a" before "r". "an" before "o".
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philthy



Joined: 02 Sep 2005
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, as for "an orange" vs "a red orange":

If the noun is modified by an adjective (red), the choice between a and an depends on the initial sound of the adjective (red) that immedietely follows the article.

Therefore "a red orange" because "red" has an initial consonant sound.
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poet13



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Just over there....throwing lemons.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you,

I do know know when the use "a" and "an", and even why...in most cases.

""a red orange"? Isn't it obvious? "a" before "r". "an" before "o"."
Yes, jacl, it is obvious, but it was the logic path I was asking about.
>> "is it because "historic" is an adjective?
If so, then why, "an orange", but, "a red orange"?".<<

Thank you everyone.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
"is it because "historic" is an adjective?


the part of speech isn't important...it is merely whether the following word starts with a vowel or consonant sound.

Don't forget about 'u'.

A united country is a happy country.
A married man is an unhappy man.


As far as I know, only 'u' and 'h' are variable depending on sound.
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