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Nowhere Man · Joined: 08 Feb 2004

This:

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/04/30/bush_challenges_hundreds_of_laws/

is a little background on this:

http://www.forbes.com/home/feeds/ap/2006/07/24/ap2900817.html

750 cases where he reserved the right to ignore/break the law...

ddeubel · Joined: 20 Jul 2005

I brought up this several weeks ago and his use of signing statements.....

The thread was dropped, seems everyone agrees Bush is a tyrant and just nothing else to mention....

But it can't be said enough, especially the lacklustre opposition lackeys who never call him on it and just don't realize the danger it is to America today and tomorrow.

DD

Kuros · Joined: 27 Apr 2004

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee · Joined: 25 May 2003

Juregen · Joined: 30 May 2006

I hope it is the beginning of the end

Ya-ta Boy · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994

The article I read said he has signed between 750 and 800 of these things: more than all other presidents put together.

I would bet that most people are not aware of this kind of thing. I wasn't. I had no idea what they were, because they have never been an issue before.

IMO, this is another example of where Bush and his cohorts are revolutionaries, not conservatives.

Kuros · Joined: 27 Apr 2004

Nowhere Man · Joined: 08 Feb 2004

Ya-ta Boy · Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994

I found a short article on AirAmerica.com about this.

Senator Prepares Bill That Would Allow Congress to Sue Bush

Sen. Arlen Specter, the Republican chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee and frequent critic of President Bush's use of signing statements, said yesterday that he would have legislation ready by the end of this week that would allow Congress to file a federal lawsuit against the president. Specter is joined by the American Bar Association in his view that the president's 750 signing statements amount to an unconstitutional end-run around congressional oversight, as Congress is unable to address the statements as it would traditional vetoes. [/quote]

Nowhere Man · Joined: 08 Feb 2004

That's already in my 2nd link of the OP.

But still disturbing considering the press coverafe it's getting.

ddeubel · Joined: 20 Jul 2005

Well, as I said before.

I don't think this is part of any grand conspiracy but rather an attitude of , hey we dunked over top of you and we will do whatever we want. A kind of bravado. These guys would get away with whatever they wish and it all goes back to the prevailing business ethics that has "swamped ' America for many years . Terrible how there is no center which holds.
The rule is : do whatever you can get away with.

Bush has taken the American people for lapdogs and is trying to get away with as much as he can -- including, stealing the future.

It is not so much the signing statements which are odorous. It is the general dismissal of debate and democracy and will of the people enshrined in the constitution. These guys no little about concensus and diplomacy and it shows spades in their foreign policy.
Americans are catching up to the foreign (non bought) view, for it is always easier to fool those up close. Any magician knows that.

DD

Nowhere Man · Joined: 08 Feb 2004

That IS sad but true commentary, Deubel.

I believe what's missing is an opposition party to call foul when this happens.

Had Clinton skirted legislation 750 times, the howls would've been heard far and wide.

The very fact that a republican Senator is going to be the one to take issue with this speaks heaps for the donkey-flogged entity we call an opposition party.

But the truth is the 2 centimeters between the parties...

The land of the polite, chivalrous Gopher.

Don't flog a dead horse.

Dig a hole and wait.