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captain planet



Joined: 18 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'da just laughed or said hmm or ok or something non-commital. if they asked me a question, i'd answered.
anyway, what that reminded me of was a few weeks ago this 1st or second grader hopped up on her chair and started doing a bootie grind dance. now that kind a thing'll freak you out... except that i had a 4th grade boy turn around on his chair and start thrusting like a madman at thin air a few years back.
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bnrockin



Joined: 27 Feb 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

whats done is done. If someone asks you about it, just say that you wanted to encourage that the human body was beautiful and not something to be scared of. Hope everything works out for you!
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mateomiguel



Joined: 16 May 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well i'm actually finishing my contract in two weeks so, good or bad, i'm not scared of any long-term consequences. Not that I would be anyways...

About the comment that i'm just an english teacher and not a Sex Ed teacher, well, I'm not really just an english teacher either. I teach math, science, reading, spelling, and english as different subjects. Its a comprehensive english after-school curriculum, so I teach these kids a ton already. I'm not their homeroom teacher but I'm the second closest.

Plus, I've got a policy of never simply ignoring what my students say to me. I think it would be a betrayal of my teaching profession. Students are actually curious about something and I brush it off? THAT seems shameful. I've had very serious 20 minute conversations about the merits of dogs vs cats and the importance of the zerg rush in Starcraft. I even once told a 10 year old, completely honestly, that Santa Claus wasn't real and I didn't believe in him. I don't habitually dismiss my students, so I didn't this time.

But I guess if I find out in 10 years that my poorly taught misguided children all grow up to be juicy girls and college dropouts, I'll change my teaching style.
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tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you did fine.

We need to celebrate the beauty of our own bodies, not to dismiss it as something that is tabooed or to be ashamed of, which is very often the case here in Asia.
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canuckistan
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Joined: 17 Jun 2003
Location: Training future GS competitors.....

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

schwa wrote:
I'd say he was way out of bounds.

We're english teachers, not puberty counsellors. The OP's comment could easily be taken as inappropriate & come back to haunt him, & by association, the rest of us.

Foreign teachers have a special responsibility to be above board at all times.


I have to agree with schwa. Some queries that emanate from students are best just put on "ignore." Especially if they're *10 year old girls* and their English teacher is male foreigner and the subject is developing b reasts.

This vignette could be totally misconstrued by a parent in any re-telling. The story could very well end up being: "Today English teacher told us b reasts are beautiful." Confused

If I were one of their moms and discovered their male (and foreign) English teacher told them this you can be sure I'd be checking that out with the school for some clarification. Was he talking about my 10 yr-old daughter's b reasts? Evil or Very Mad
Korea is still a very conservative country. Don't underestimate the power of miscommunication--especially in a case like this.

While I understand it was well-intentioned "positive reinforcement", unless you've been hired as the sex ed teacher, leave the teaching about girls' bodies to their parents and teachers designated to do so.

The "Elementary school girl flashed boobies at me!!" title of this thread doesn't show very mature or prudent judgement. In fact I'm going to edit it. Hope you don't mind.


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Richard Krainium



Joined: 12 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tzechuk wrote:
I think you did fine.

We need to celebrate the beauty of our own bodies, not to dismiss it as something that is tabooed or to be ashamed of, which is very often the case here in Asia.


Your husband is a lucky guy! Laughing
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canuckistan
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tzechuk wrote:
I think you did fine.

We need to celebrate the beauty of our own bodies, not to dismiss it as something that is tabooed or to be ashamed of, which is very often the case here in Asia.


Of course, but I don't think that encouragement is best coming from foreign male English teachers when girls are 10 years old Confused
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seoulsista



Joined: 31 Aug 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it depends on the tone of the word "beautiful" if you saud it the way you would about a playboy centerfold than yes that's innapropriate. If you said it in a rather mundane way then no I don't think that's a big deal.

If people want to get all self-righteous - tell me you have never said something off the cuff and questioned it.
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mateomiguel



Joined: 16 May 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

seoulsista wrote:
I think it depends on the tone of the word "beautiful" if you saud it the way you would about a playboy centerfold than yes that's innapropriate. If you said it in a rather mundane way then no I don't think that's a big deal.


It was just like talking about a flower or a little paper frog that the kids make, like "that's nice now sit back down in your desk". It was only half a second.
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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mateomiguel wrote:
seoulsista wrote:
I think it depends on the tone of the word "beautiful" if you saud it the way you would about a playboy centerfold than yes that's innapropriate. If you said it in a rather mundane way then no I don't think that's a big deal.


It was just like talking about a flower or a little paper frog that the kids make, like "that's nice now sit back down in your desk". It was only half a second.


Big deal.


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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 200