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[Homer]

Good justification to sit on your butt Grotto...well done man.

I have a different view of it however. I think a teacher is responsible for his students learning, no matter where he teaches. I think tests or evaluations are a vital part of that task. It allows a teacher to know where his students are and what areas they are having problems with. If you work at a childrens hakwon then testing is done on that level, it does not have to be an detailed test with detailed grades...it is a tool for the teacher to help his students learn. The other point about this is that by doing the minimum (or in the case of not testing at all even less than that) then you should not expect any sort of advancement as a teacher. It is all up to the person I suppose. Me, I prefer giving my students my best.

Of course, if you prefer to justify your non-actions by the place you are working at (or were sorry) than that is your choice.

I remember back home as a teacher when the school district told us that grading was not considered part of a teachers paid duty.... I guess the Big Grotto Book of teaching would have meant that we would just have stopped grading our high school students' papers and tests...
My mother was a French teacher (now retired) and she usually brought home grading on a nightly basis. This was outside of school hours and it certainly was not paid as overtime or even as extra hours...this is just teaching...

To the OP: sorry to have sort od derailed your thread!

Your Head teacher sounds like he/she is trying to assert power. In that case I would suggest sticking to your guns on key issues and carefully choosing your battles.

I would also suggest you take whatever concerns you have to him/her in private and certainly not at some public staff meeting. Be diplomatic here and know when and where to draw the line.

[Grotto]

[Homer]

Grotto..I think you missunderstand the concept of evaluation.

It does not require marks and conventional tests.

I said that when I worked at a hakwon I used tests and evaluations as tools to gauge my students progress and to improve my lessons accordingly.....

In Ontario, grading is not considered extra paid duty when you take it home. Same deal in Quebec (where I worked a couple of times).

Anyway...just relating my experiences here, not trying to win any argument.

[Kimchieluver]

I have done grading in both the hogwan setting and in the public system. At the hogwan I was not paid and I was only allowed to give a B as a lowest mark.

In the public system, I do grading for various listening and speaking tests carried out by the provincial government. I get paid extra for it and the grades actually mean something. Furthermore, at my school the English teachers put questions from my classes on the exams. If they jack around during my class they feel it during test time. I also help confirm/correct test questions and answers for midterms and finals at my school.

[cubanlord]

[cubanlord]

[SeniorEnglish]

All's well that ends well.

[own_king]