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AbbeFaria



Joined: 17 May 2005
Location: Gangnam

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:06 am    Post subject: Damn we're fat Reply with quote

It mentions both Americans and Canadians, so this is no longer just a U.S. problem.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2006-07/28/content_4886655.htm

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North Americans getting too fat for scanners

BEIJING, July 28 (Xinhuanet) -- A growing number of obese patients in North America are having trouble in getting adequate medical care because they either cannot fit into scanners or have fatty tissue that blocks X-rays or sound waves, a new study has found.

"There are things that you can miss because the X-ray beams are just not able to penetrate deep enough," said study author Raul Uppot, a radiologist at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston. The study is published in the August issue of the journal Radiology.

In some cases, the quality can be so poor that doctors could fail diagnose small lung, abdominal and liver tumors, Uppot said.

With 64 percent of the U.S. population either overweight or obese, the problem is worsening, but it represents a business opportunity for equipment makers and hospitals, he said.

Canadian hospitals are also struggling with the difficulties of diagnosing an increasing number of obese patients.

Stewart McNeil, patient equipment co-ordinator at Hamilton Health Sciences, said the hospital can rent over-sized equipment when it is called for, but noted that patients who are very obese are sometimes sent to nearby veterinary colleges.

"The MRI and X-ray machines there are designed for horses," he said. "How would you feel?"

Moreover, many older scanners also cannot support more than 400 pounds of weight, while in other cases, a patient's sheer girth can touch the sides of the scanner, making it difficult to get a clear image.

Hospitals are supposed to replace their equipment every 10 years -- a guideline that is often ignored when the equipment is still functioning properly, said Robin Hesler, CEO of the Ontario Association of Medical Radiation Technologists.

Meanwhile, Hesler said obese patients may be exposed to higher levels of radiation in some scans because more is needed to produce an image.

Statistics Canada shows the nation's obesity rate has almost doubled in the past two decades -- jumping from 13 percent in 1978 to 23 percent in 2004.


Do you think it's just bad eating habits, bad food that's so loaded with chemical crap our bodies can't process it, or maybe a little of both? I don't really know, but I do know this is getting frelling pathetic.

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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:11 am    Post subject: Re: Damn we're fat Reply with quote

I love you. I was just looking for this and couldn't find it. I was going to use it in the thread about being fat over in the general forum. Thanks !

BTW, fat fat fat fat Smile
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AbbeFaria



Joined: 17 May 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:14 am    Post subject: Re: Damn we're fat Reply with quote

laogaiguk wrote:
I love you. I was just looking for this and couldn't find it. I was going to use it in the thread about being fat over in the general forum. Thanks !

BTW, fat fat fat fat Smile


Laughing

http://news.google.com/
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rawiri



Joined: 01 Jun 2003
Location: Lovely day for a fire drill.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

With 64 percent of the U.S. population either overweight or obese, the problem is worsening, but it represents a business opportunity for equipment makers and hospitals, he said.




64%!!!!! Damn!, that is truely awesome!. GO AMERICA
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khyber



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Compunction Junction

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

natural concequence of capitalism and having a LOT of materials availible non?

People ain't willing to make the sacrifice to lose weight and be healthy. period.
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VirginIslander



Joined: 24 May 2006
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No worries. Innovation will overcome.

For the fatter patients, doctors are no longer using X-Ray machines.
Now, they are using XL-Ray machines.

I thank you.
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desultude



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I am back in the States for a while, and the weight issue, is, well, big.

It used to be more of a middle America problem, and the coasts were slimmer- urbanization and body consciousness in the Southern parts. Now, on South Beach, flesh of the seriously fleshly kind is hanging over, under and between the scant clothes worn in the Florida summer. I sat in one South Beach cafe and watched sandwiches being served that were several inches thick, on thick bread, with fries, with sodas. This is where the fabulous people hang out.

There are a lot of reasons for it (the thick sandwiches and the fast food being right up there on the list), but everyone seems to be just adjusting to it. The clothes here are huge in the stores.

I have to say that holding people individually responsible for their weight related health problems makes sense, but it is clearly a societal problem. And I am troubled by the idea that it is perfectly okay to be so fat that you have a hard time breathing and moving. It is not a crime, and people should not be belittled, but neither should it be totally accepted. Like smoking and alcoholism, obesity, in most cases, is caused by behavior. If it were genetic, then this would not have happened in the last twenty years- genetic changes take many many generations.

I don't know what the solution is, but it is a real social health problem, and it is scary to watch it being treated as a new "normal".
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laogaiguk



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

desultude wrote:
Well, I am back in the States for a while, and the weight issue, is, well, big.

It used to be more of a middle America problem, and the coasts were slimmer- urbanization and body consciousness in the Southern parts. Now, on South Beach, flesh of the seriously fleshly kind is hanging over, under and between the scant clothes worn in the Florida summer. I sat in one South Beach cafe and watched sandwiches being served that were several inches thick, on thick bread, with fries, with sodas. This is where the fabulous people hang out.

There are a lot of reasons for it (the thick sandwiches and the fast food being right up there on the list), but everyone seems to be just adjusting to it. The clothes here are huge in the stores.

I have to say that holding people individually responsible for their weight related health problems makes sense, but it is clearly a societal problem. And I am troubled by the idea that it is perfectly okay to be so fat that you have a hard time breathing and moving. It is not a crime, and people should not be belittled, but neither should it be totally accepted. Like smoking and alcoholism, obesity, in most cases, is caused by behavior. If it were genetic, then this would not have happened in the last twenty years- genetic changes take many many generations.

I don't know what the solution is, but it is a real social health problem, and it is scary to watch it being treated as a new "normal".


I agree with all of this, but especially the last sentence.
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cosmicgirlie



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't know what the solution is, but it is a real social health problem, and it is scary to watch it being treated as a new "normal".


There is no quick solution the to problem. There should be a overall health intiative put in place beginning with the little kids. Teach them now so that their future generations can avoid the fat problem. Forget about the adults now....only they will make that decision to change, but kids...if you feed and show them proper portions of food in a setting where they spend most of their life instead of leaving it to the hands of the parents than well you have a better chance of saving the world from fatter generations--and it's only going to get worse. Bring back PE. Enforce PE all the way through school. Make sport programs universal instead of outrageous prices--soccer does have a great house league system where it's about $100 for the whole season unlike hockey which is out of this world pricey.

Those are just starters that I can think of. It's going to take about two generations of kids to get over the obese problem so governments are willing to invest as there is no immediate results. This is tragic.
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canuckistan
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The post-war trend of "convenience" consumer goods to make life "easier" (including food) has ended up being too much of a good thing.
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Ody



Joined: 27 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in a recent phone conversation, my brother was telling me that (god forbid) if the US were invaded, and every man had to defend the country, he believes that half the population would drop dead trying to run a hundred yards.

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canuckistan
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ody wrote:
in a recent phone conversation, my brother was telling me that (god forbid) if the US were invaded, and every man had to defend the country, he believes that half the population would drop dead trying to run a hundred yards.

Laughing


Why bother running?! They could just crush the invaders by sitting on them Wink
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jlb



Joined: 18 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 6:00 pm    Post subject: Korea Reply with quote

It makes me happy to be back in Korea after spending a couple of years in Canada and the USA. Normal size food portions, heavy on the veggies. Delightful.

Walking everywhere instead of driving from the 'burbs.
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VirginIslander



Joined: 24 May 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"in a recent phone conversation, my brother was telling me that (god forbid) if the US were invaded, and every man had to defend the country, he believes that half the population would drop dead trying to run a hundred yards"

That is why Bin Landen has invested most of his family fortune into new McDonalds locations.
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