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Canadians: Do we pay taxes in Canada for $ earned in SK?

 
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bombenhagen



Joined: 21 Jun 2006
Location: NL

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:27 pm    Post subject: Canadians: Do we pay taxes in Canada for $ earned in SK? Reply with quote

Another question for the vets here, are we taxed in our home country for money earned in SK? I'm Canadian and don't know if it is the same for all other counties or not. I have a friend working in Qatar and he had to basiclly have no ties, on paper anyway, to Canada so that he would not pay taxes here. Anyone heard of this? He was making over 200K so maybe that doesn't apply to normal folk like us Smile Once again, any help would be great.
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tax/nonresidents/common/residency-e.html

Read through the info there. Basically, if you have no primary ties and few/no secondary ties and are in Canada for less than 183 days during the tax year in question, you will most likely be deemed a non-resident(if you fill out the forms for it) for that tax year.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you apply for, and are granted nonresidency status, you do not have to pay taxes on your Korean income... otherwise, you have to pay Canadian taxes on your 'world income'.

To be granted nonresidency status, you can have no more than three ties to Canada - one of which is your passport.
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bombenhagen



Joined: 21 Jun 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, this is hilarious though:

The residential ties you have or establish in Canada are a major factor in determining residency. Residential ties to Canada include;

a home in Canada
a spouse or common-law partner and dependants who stay in Canada, while you are living abroad
personal property in Canada, such as a car or furniture
social ties in Canada
economic ties in Canada
Other ties that may be relevant include:

a Canadian driver's licence
health insurance with a Canadian province or territory

So Canadian passport, check....drivers licence, check...social ties, check....economic ties(bank account), check....health insurance (everyone does), check

so basically you have to give up your country inorder not to pay taxes here. The question is: how many people actually pay them regardless? Also, if i go through the trouble of becoming a nonresident, and they don't let me sign the forms, am I then condemned to paying taxes because they know where I'm going and what I plan on doing in SK?
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Homer
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read more carefully bombenhagen,

The site mentions how to limit primary ties and how that will mean you pay no canadian taxes on income earned here.

You do have to eliminate certain primary ties and that makes sense...i.e. a house.

RSSPs are the same...they give you a tax deduction hence you need to pay tax to get the deduction....

My advice, call the relevant government agency and ask.
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denverdeath



Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn

PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bombenhagen wrote:
Thanks, this is hilarious though:

The residential ties you have or establish in Canada are a major factor in determining residency. Residential ties to Canada include;

a home in Canada (never had one - came here soon after finishing school)
a spouse or common-law partner and dependants who stay in Canada, while you are living abroad (I was never married in Canada, although this one could be possible for some people...especially those in their later twenties or early thirties. Again, people probably wouldn't leave their spouse while working overseas, but I'm sure it does happen. Think of those who work for multi-nationals or for a governmental agency and are stationed overseas)
personal property in Canada, such as a car or furniture (sell that crap if you have it)
social ties in Canada (here they mean memberships in particular groups where attendance during the year might be important...just don't check it on the form)
economic ties in Canada
Other ties that may be relevant include:

a Canadian driver's licence (I had this and was okay...renewed it and am still okay...will be renewing it once again soon)
health insurance with a Canadian province or territory (your province will most likely cancel this on you...mine did at least twice...and I know that I'd have to go in to get it reactivated if I were to go home today)

So Canadian passport, check....drivers licence, check...social ties, check....economic ties(bank account), check....health insurance (everyone does), check

so basically you have to give up your country inorder not to pay taxes here. The question is: how many people actually pay them regardless? Also, if i go through the trouble of becoming a nonresident, and they don't let me sign the forms, am I then condemned to paying taxes because they know where I'm going and what I plan on doing in SK?


So. Passport, check. Driver's license, check. Bank acct for student loans or sth, check. Health insurance that'll likely be cancelled or that you might be able to cancel prior to leaving, check. You'll notice that all of these things are considered as secondary ties. It's not that they don't let you fill out the forms, you fill them out and include them with your tax form...they determine whether you are a non-resident or not, based upon your responses. The only thing that I can recommend is to limit the checks you place on the form. You can also fill them out after you return. Or, you can fill them out while you're here(I was fortunate to be out of the country at the right time the first year I was here and actually received a return from Revenue Canada. I declared non-residency prior to coming the second time...I arrived in early March that second year).
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vox



Joined: 13 Feb 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 7:16 pm    Post subject: Tax info re: 2005 Reply with quote

Hi,

I just went through this last May as I was in Toronto and I found out that on your Income Tax Form line 256 you can claim all your overseas income for which you paid taxes in the host country. I did that and just got my return back, no problem. But you should keep your stamped paystubs in case you get audited.

I didn't check it out but the RC rep suggested it was new to the 2005 return.
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joyfulgirl



Joined: 05 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i never filled out the forms i needed to, the non residency things. i'm lazy and dumb like that. i left canada in dec. 2003, and haven't been back, or thought about canadian taxes since. but apparantly am still tied to it, 'cause i have a bank account (with little money), a passport, and a driver's licence.

i should be more worried about it, i suppose. tho, i met a guy here a few months ago, who left his job at 'tax office canada'...whatever that's called...to come here, and said, yea, i may be breaking a coupla rules, but it was pretty unlikely i'd get into any trouble when i went home, i.e. have to pay anything, 'cause i was a small fish to fry. he was very reassuring.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

joyful,
The only real worry you should have is if you filed your taxes in 2003 for the income you earned in Canada prior to leaving. This is only a worry if you owe the Government money.

If not, sleep well at night.
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bombenhagen



Joined: 21 Jun 2006
Location: NL

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Homer wrote:
Read more carefully bombenhagen,

The site mentions how to limit primary ties and how that will mean you pay no canadian taxes on income earned here.

You do have to eliminate certain primary ties and that makes sense...i.e. a house.

RSSPs are the same...they give you a tax deduction hence you need to pay tax to get the deduction....

My advice, call the relevant government agency and ask.


Reading carefully was never one of my strong points Laughing I'll just have to do a little more looking around, thanks.
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TECO



Joined: 20 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When did the forms for applying for non-residency come out?
I came over in '99 and was told that the government/courts would look at how many ties you had to Canada (i.e., property, investments, cash, etc.).

I haven't filed a tax return in about 7 years.

I'm not eligible for provincial medical insurance now. I don't receive any GST.

T.D. and Royal closed my accounts a few years ago because they weren't being used.

I do have a Royal Bank Credit Card, though.

What's this about "Social" ties? Aha, ha!! So, we can't have any Canadian friends now?

I have:

- a few stocks
- Driver's Licence
- Passport
- Royal Bank Visa

These are my only ties to Canada.
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cuckoo for kimchi



Joined: 27 Jul 2006
Location: somewhere lost in time and space...or korea

PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:08 am    Post subject: CDN taxes Reply with quote

If you are out of the country (Canada)for 2 years they cannot do anything...you are tax free....if you only stay for one year you can be taxed......A friend of mine stayed here for 1 year...when he went back to canada he had to pay $2000 in income taxes.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cuckoo that is only true if you do not have too many primary ties to Canada.

If you do they can tax your income (if they investigate of course).

To anyone wondering about this...get your facts straight, don't take it from us! Contact Revenue Canada!
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