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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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 Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 6:36 am Post subject: Landis tests positive |
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http://sports.espn.go.com/oly/tdf2006/news/story?id=2531225
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Phonak: Landis had positive drug test after Stage 17
LONDON -- Tour de France champion Floyd Landis tested positive for high levels of testosterone during the race, his Phonak team said Thursday on its Web site.
The statement came a day after cycling's world governing body said an unidentified rider had failed a drug test during the Tour.
"The Phonak Cycling Team was notified yesterday by the UCI of an unusual level of testosterone/epitestosterone ratio in the test made on Floyd Landis after stage 17 of the Tour de France," Phonak said in a team statement.
Landis failed to show up for a one-day race in Denmark on Thursday, a day after missing a scheduled event in the Netherlands.
Danish organizers said they had arranged a contract and plane tickets for Landis and Phonak teammates to participate in the Grand Prix Jyske Bank race in Silkeborg, about 150 miles west of Copenhagen.
"He was not on the plane," said race organizer Jesper Tikoeb. "We don't know where he is. It's pretty mysterious. We know nothing, really nothing at all."
He said his calls to the Phonak team went unanswered.
Landis also failed to appear for the Acht van Chaam race in the Netherlands on Wednesday.
Dutch news agency ANP quoted his teammate Koos Moerenhout as saying that Landis had pain from his hip problem and had gone to see his doctor in Germany.
He plans to have hip replacement surgery this fall to ease pain in the arthritic joint still aching from a 2003 crash during a training ride.
"We were told by the other two riders that he couldn't join because he was traveling with team manager [John] Lelangue to his doctor in Germany," event organizer Theo van der Westerlaken said. "That's all we know."
Landis did take part in a criterium race Tuesday in Stiphout, Netherlands, winning the event.
Cycling Services, which booked teams for both Dutch events, said it has been trying without success to get in contact with Phonak for an explanation.
Landis won the Tour de France on Sunday, keeping the title in U.S. hands for the eighth straight year after Lance Armstrong's record seven victories.
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ddeubel
Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 6:42 am Post subject: |
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WOW.
Just goes to show that the sport of cycling is all about the long term, keep doing whatever to get wherever.....'
I always knew (as a runner) that cyclists were very superficial, cosmetic and sensitive to any new fashion....this proves this observation, most just think of drugs, like bananas. Something to ingest to get better....
Wow
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:34 am Post subject: |
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| most just think of drugs, like bananas |
Can't you just feel the cool factor sliding down into negative triple digits? |
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canuckistan
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Joined: 17 Jun 2003
Location: Training future GS competitors.....
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| Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:42 am Post subject: |
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I wonder what Landis' explanation will be, if any.
Geez, the party didn't last very long did it. |
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huffdaddy
Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Thu Jul 27, 2006 3:53 pm Post subject: |
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| I wonder what Landis' explanation will be, if any. |
Deny.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060727/ap_on_sp_ot/cyc_floyd_landis_23
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Landis denies cheating to win Tour By JAMEY KEATEN, Associated Press
PARIS - American cyclist Floyd Landis denied that he cheated to win the Tour de France, but said Thursday that his career will forever be stained by his positive test for high testosterone during the sport's premiere event.
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"Unfortunately, I don't think it's ever going to go away no matter what happens next," Landis said during a teleconference.
Landis' Tour de France victory was thrown into question earlier Thursday when his team said he tested positive for high testosterone levels during stage 17, when the 30-year-old American champion began his stunning comeback with a gritty charge into the Alps.
The Phonak team suspended Landis, pending results of the backup "B" sample of his drug test. If Landis is found guilty, he could be stripped of the Tour title and fired from the team.
"I think there's a good possibility I'll clear my name," Landis said. "Regardless of whether this happens or not, I don't know if this will ever go away."
Landis said he wouldn't be surprised if people were skeptical of him and the sport of cycling, but he pleaded for time to clear his name.
"All I'm asking for," he said, "is that I be given a chance to prove that I'm innocent. Cycling has a traditional way of trying people in the court of public opinion before they get a chance to do anything else.
I would like to be presumed innocent until proven guilty � since that's the way we do things in America."
Asked repeatedly what might have tripped his positive test, Landis refused to lay blame on anything in particular. "As to what actually caused it on that particular day, I can only speculate," he said.
Landis said he was still in Europe, but declined to say exactly where. "Not to be elusive, I have to figure out a way to get to the airport and get home." |
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Rteacher
Joined: 23 May 2005
Location: Western MA, USA
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| Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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And - most troubling of all (to me anyway last night...) - he failed to appear as a scheduled guest on Jay Leno's Tonight Show.
Leno, though, offered his vote of confidence that he'd be cleared of charges...
It's possible... And, I wouldn't put it past some envious competing anti-American interests to have set him up ... Then again, I wouldn't put it past any American (or someone of any nationality...) to cheat either - especially when there's a lot on the line... |
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Junior
Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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| Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Rteacher"]
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| And - most troubling of all (to me anyway last night...) - he failed to appear as a scheduled guest on [i]Jay Leno's Tonight Show |
he was just on Larry king this morning.
The test could be faulty and the clinic conducting the tests is questionable (apparently). it all hangs on a test of the B sample.
lance Armstrong and now this, the Americans are sensing a European conspiracy against their competitors. |
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keithinkorea
Joined: 17 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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[quote="Junior"]
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| And - most troubling of all (to me anyway last night...) - he failed to appear as a scheduled guest on [i]Jay Leno's Tonight Show |
he was just on Larry king this morning.
The test could be faulty and the clinic conducting the tests is questionable (apparently). it all hangs on a test of the B sample.
lance Armstrong and now this, the Americans are sensing a European conspiracy against their competitors. |
Paranoid cheating seppos;) |
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buymybook
Joined: 21 Feb 2005
Location: Telluride
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| Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 1:37 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Junior"]
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| And - most troubling of all (to me anyway last night...) - he failed to appear as a scheduled guest on [i]Jay Leno's Tonight Show |
he was just on Larry king this morning.
The test could be faulty and the clinic conducting the tests is questionable (apparently). it all hangs on a test of the B sample.
lance Armstrong and now this, the Americans are sensing a European conspiracy against their competitors. |
You are so right! And, the results of Test A should have never been leaked to the public since Test B was not completed yet. Those are the rules.
The testers broke the rules with the leak, big Anti-American Mouths!
LANDIS is GREAT, a true champion with a big heart!!!
CYCLING IS A GREAT SPORT and hobby. Much better for your knees compared to running. |
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keithinkorea
Joined: 17 Mar 2004
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 1:42 am Post subject: |
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| Strip his arthritic ass of the title then. Armstrong was one big cheat too, he should have been stripped of all his titles. Toolate for that, but Landis deserves a ban and the loss of the title. |
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canuckistan
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Location: Training future GS competitors.....
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| Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:39 am Post subject: |
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The latest...synthetic hormones present...and we could know test B results by the weekend:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/01/sports/othersports/01landis.html?ei=5065&en=62f8b57a3bf5609d&ex=1155096000&partner=MYWAY&pagewanted=print
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New Finding Challenges Tour Champ�s Claim
By JULIET MACUR
Tests performed on the cyclist Floyd Landis�s initial urine sample showed that some of the testosterone in his body had come from an external source and was not produced by his system, according to a person at the International Cycling Union with knowledge of the results.
That finding contradicts what Landis has claimed in his defense since the disclosure last week that he had tested positive for an elevated ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone during the Tour de France.
During a news conference in Madrid on Friday, Landis said, �We will explain to the world why this is not a doping case, but a natural occurrence.� He explained that the testosterone levels throughout his career were �natural and produced by my own organism.�
Landis, 30, the third American to win the Tour, captivated fans with an improbable comeback. He provided the urine samples at the center of the doping inquiry after winning Stage 17 in the Alps with a long solo attack. That performance set up his victory, as he climbed to third place over all after struggling and plunging to 11th the day before.
His urine sample from that day was divided into A and B samples. Confirmation of the A sample result is needed for a doping violation to occur. If the B sample comes up negative, the case is dropped. But the finding disclosed yesterday, based on a more sophisticated test, shed new light on Landis�s failure to pass his initial screening, and he could be subjected to punishment because he had a prohibited substance in his body.
If the B sample comes back positive, Landis will face a two-year suspension from the sport. He will also be stripped of his Tour de France title.
The French national antidoping laboratory in Ch�tenay-Malabry performed a carbon isotope ratio test on the first of Landis�s two urine samples provided after Stage 17, the person, who is in the cycling union�s antidoping department, said in an interview yesterday.
That test, which differentiates between natural and synthetic testosterone, was done after Landis�s ratio of testosterone to epitestosterone was found to be more than twice what is allowed under World Anti-Doping Agency rules, the person said. Regulations limit the ratio to four to one. The range for an average person is between one to one and two to one.
Landis�s personal doctor, Dr. Brent Kay of Temecula, Calif., said he hoped that the results of Landis�s carbon isotope ratio test and of the initial T/E test were false positives. He did, however, acknowledge that the initial test found a ratio of 11 to 1 in Landis�s system. He and Landis are seeking an explanation for that high level.
�I�ve seen bodybuilders with numbers 100 to 1,� Kay said. �Although Floyd�s was elevated, it�s not off the chart or anything.�
Kay said there could be many explanations for Landis�s high ratio, including a naturally high testosterone to epitestosterone level, bacterial contamination, alcohol consumption the night before the test or contamination of the specimen during testing. He could not say why synthetic testosterone might have been in Landis�s system. He said both tests could have been inaccurate.
Landis, who was in New York after canceling or postponing several talk-show appearances, could not be reached for comment yesterday. His spokesman, Michael Henson, said that Landis sent a request yesterday for the French lab to test his B sample. Landis had five business days from last Wednesday to do so.
Pat McQuaid, the president of the cycling body, which is known by its French acronym, U.C.I., said last night that the organization had contacted the French lab at 5 p.m. in Paris to see if Landis�s request had been received. When the lab said no, McQuaid said U.C.I. asked the lab to analyze Landis�s B sample, which he said was allowed under the organization�s rules. McQuaid wanted the test to be concluded before the lab closed for a two-week vacation this Friday. If the tests cannot be finished before then, the results may not come until late August or early September, he said.
�It�s a two-and-a-half-day job, and it�s imperative that the B test be done this week for the credibility of our sport, but also for the public interest,� McQuaid said. �This needs to be put to rest because there is too much innuendo, too much talk, too much damage being done to our sport. We have to get this process done quickly, so we can move on.�
The lab agreed to conduct the tests Thursday through Saturday, McQuaid said. That means that Landis�s fate may be known by the weekend.
Dr. Gary I. Wadler, a member of the World Anti-Doping Agency and an associate professor at New York University School of Medicine, said that the result of the carbon isotope ratio test already proved that there was synthetic testosterone in Landis�s system. He said that the test needs to be done only once, on either an A or on a B sample, particularly if the athlete�s testosterone to epitestosterone ratio is found to be high or if that elevated level is inconsistent with previous test results.
�The rules say that it is a violation, but if you can show that the athlete had no fault or no significant fault, there could be a mitigation of the sanction,� Wadler said. �No matter how it got there, the athlete has to show how it got into his or her body. It could have been sabotage or contaminated dietary supplements, or something else, but they have to prove how the testosterone got there.�
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:43 am Post subject: |
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| I hope it turns out he is innocent. I thought his come-back was inspiring. |
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canuckistan
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Joined: 17 Jun 2003
Location: Training future GS competitors.....
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| Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:00 am Post subject: |
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I was talking with someone yesterday about Landis--she grew up just down the road from him in Pennsylvania.
We did discuss the possibility of the someone playing really dirty pool. The stakes are certainly high enough. |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
| I hope it turns out he is innocent. I thought his come-back was inspiring. |
No. He is a cheating *beep* who should be banned. Whats inspirational about cheaters? |
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