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Paddycakes



Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 4:38 pm    Post subject: Living in England with Korean Wife Reply with quote

I am a Canadian with a Korean wife and a 3 year old daughter.

I'd like to live in England for a year just for the hell of it.

I'm self-employed and so long as I have a laptop and an internet connection I can work anywhere in the world I want.

Questions:

1. What's the best place to live in England other than London?

2. How much should I generally expect to pay for rent for a two bedroom apartment, preferably furnished as I don't want have to buy everything again just for a 1 year stay.

3. Are there many Koreans outside of London. My wife needs to have Korean friends or she'll drive me nuts.

Chrs
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The largest Korean community is around Kingston-upon-Thames, just west of London, and almost a suburb. There amost 20,000 Koreans living in UK, most of course around London. But I do know of smaller communities in Manchester and Cambridge. Both would be cheaper than London, and Manchester cheaper than Cambridge.

There are probably Koreans living in most major cities.

2-bed apartments there in Cambridge 700 GBP a month. http://www.homesandproperty.co.uk/area.aspx?areaid=1522&opt=prop&salerent=1&sp=0

In Manchester, or just outside, you can have a 4-bed semi-detached house for the same amount.

http://www.findaproperty.com/SearchResults.aspx?edid=00&salerent=1&areaid=1513
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daninkorea



Joined: 06 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Korean community is actually in New Malden and Worcester Park (which are near Kingston), which is a suburb of London, and on the tube/ subway.

Unfortunately Surrey (the county New Malden is in) is also one of the more expensive - I would think a two bed furnished apartment will be 700 pounds (minimum).

Ahh I love not paying for my accomodation!!!
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Paddycakes



Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Unfortunately Surrey (the county New Malden is in) is also one of the more expensive - I would think a two bed furnished apartment will be 700 pounds (minimum).



Per week?

Are there any places in England that include the Council Tax in the rent?

Just who the hell is the Council?
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plattwaz



Joined: 08 Apr 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 12:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a decent website for finding rentals in London, you need to choose your neighbourhood and then you can compare the costs across the city. (Actually, I think it isn't just for London but perhaps all of England, I can't remember).

www.findaproperty.com

They do not include the Council Tax in the rent costs, but there is also a website where you can enter your local council, and the address of the property which gives you a council property rating. Then, you go to your council website and look up the rating and it will tell you the current year's council tax rates. You'll have to google it on your own, I can't remember the URL. It will run you about an extra 100 pound per month, more if you are looking for a better neighborhood - and the more your preperty is valued at, the higher your council tax will be.

700 pound for a nice 2 bedroom in London is quite low, IMO. It's about right for a one-bedroom in a decent neighbourhood, though. It all depends on what type of place (both neighbourhood and flat) you are willing to live in.

Out of curiosity, what type of visa do you plan on applying for????
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tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The council = the County Council.... like *goo-cheong* in Korea.

I think your Korean wife will be quite at home in New Malden - they sell almost everything there, from Kimchi to Mandoo to soju. And things are sign-posted in Korean, too! I was quite surprised the first time I went there to buy some stuff in preparation for my then Korean-boyfriend, now husband's visit.

The South is generally more expensive than the North (of London), simply because people tend to feel posher down there (no offence :p)

Instead of Surrey and London, you might want to look at Kent, which is less expensive but some areas are counted as Greater London and are (barely) on the tube/train lines that go directly to London.

Whatever you do, do NOT go to the East End of London...

Just don't. Not suitable for your daughter (again, no offence, but lots of Indians/Arabs there).

You might want to look at www.loot.com for property but you have to subscribe to it for a full list.

BTW, don't sublet council flats because you get into huge, huge trouble for doing it.
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Endesu



Joined: 24 Apr 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2006 4:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any of the bigger cities (London, Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool, Glasgow, Sheffield, Newcastle) have Korean communities, some bigger than others. Often they are made up of university students and their families. Lots of Koreans doing their masters degrees and PHD's.

I lived a year in Sheffield, and they have a nice little community of about 150 people, a Korean church and a Korean-owned mart (Fresh Asia).
That said, Sheffield was not to my liking, although I know many people like it. Its alot more rural than London, and if you want a quieter, more typically British lifestyle, I think you are better of away from London.
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Muffin



Joined: 01 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There seems to be quite a sizeable population of Koreans in my home town Bournemouth, a seaside resort on the south coast.

However, most of them seem to be the active church-going types as there are several Korean churches.

A two-bed furnished apartment will cost between 600 and 700 GB pounds per month.

It depends on whether you would prefer the city life or a smaller town. Bournemouth is a town with a population of about 160,000. There are a couple of Korean grocery stores as well as other ethnic food shops. In many ways being a beach resort, it is nice for families and about 2 hours drive from London. If you want any more info feel free to PM me.
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Junior



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
Location: the eye

PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 2:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wangja wrote:
There amost 20,000 Koreans living in UK, most of course around London.


Next time U see koreans in the UK, first make a big fuss of refusing to sit next to them on the tube. then ask them how long they've been in your country and when they will leave. Maybe congratulate them on their use of knives and forks too. If you see one with an english girlfriend, be sure to tell her off for diluting the bloodline.

this is what gets to me most about koreans. they see it as their right to live in the west and enjoy all the benefits, yet they get all wound up at the sight of a single foreigner stepping foot in Korea.
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Junior wrote:

Next time U see koreans in the UK, first make a big fuss of refusing to sit next to them on the tube. then ask them how long they've been in your country and when they will leave. Maybe congratulate them on their use of knives and forks too. If you see one with an english girlfriend, be sure to tell her off for diluting the bloodline.

Right. Be as much of an ass to strangers as other strange asses were to you.
Excellent advice. Rolling Eyes
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Marlboro



Joined: 31 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tzechuk wrote:
The council = the County Council.... like *goo-cheong* in Korea.

I think your Korean wife will be quite at home in New Malden - they sell almost everything there, from Kimchi to Mandoo to soju. And things are sign-posted in Korean, too! I was quite surprised the first time I went there to buy some stuff in preparation for my then Korean-boyfriend, now husband's visit.

The South is generally more expensive than the North (of London), simply because people tend to feel posher down there (no offence :p)

Instead of Surrey and London, you might want to look at Kent, which is less expensive but some areas are counted as Greater London and are (barely) on the tube/train lines that go directly to London.

Whatever you do, do NOT go to the East End of London...

Just don't. Not suitable for your daughter (again, no offence, but lots of Indians/Arabs there).

You might want to look at www.loot.com for property but you have to subscribe to it for a full list.

BTW, don't sublet council flats because you get into huge, huge trouble for doing it.


What exactly do you mean by East London not being suitable because of the large concentration of Indians/Arabs?
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safeblad



Joined: 17 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think if your coming to england for just one year to spend it in new malden, or anywhere on the fringes of london would be wasted. Your not really in london there, but you have london prices, its not on the tube and will take you time to go into town. Kingston is not the nicest place either, its a town centre riot zone on weekends. If your going to live in london, might as well be zone 1 or 2. Muslims or no.

http://www.thinklondon.com/knowledge/koreanlanguage.pdf

This says there is a korean population in camden, it would interesting to live there for a year. As long as your daughter isnt going to school in london, your OK.

You could always try Brighton, its a nice place + lots of language schools.
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Natalia



Joined: 10 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bulsajo wrote:
Junior wrote:

Next time U see koreans in the UK, first make a big fuss of refusing to sit next to them on the tube. then ask them how long they've been in your country and when they will leave. Maybe congratulate them on their use of knives and forks too. If you see one with an english girlfriend, be sure to tell her off for diluting the bloodline.

Right. Be as much of an ass to strangers as other strange asses were to you.
Excellent advice. Rolling Eyes


Well I don't think he was being entirely serious, but he has a point.

One of my co-workers is always telling me how awful and people in my country are (she's never been there) and how it's not good for us to be in Korea. And in the same breath she always asks me for information about how she can move to my country.
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Junior



Joined: 18 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Natalia wrote:
Bulsajo wrote:
Junior wrote:

Next time U see koreans in the UK, first make a big fuss of refusing to sit next to them on the tube. then ask them how long they've been in your country and when they will leave. Maybe congratulate them on their use of knives and forks too. If you see one with an english girlfriend, be sure to tell her off for diluting the bloodline.

Right. Be as much of an ass to strangers as other strange asses were to you.
Excellent advice. Rolling Eyes


Well I don't think he was being entirely serious, but he has a point.

One of my co-workers is always telling me how awful and people in my country are (she's never been there) and how it's not good for us to be in Korea. And in the same breath she always asks me for information about how she can move to my country.


EXACTLY

anything that helps Koreans put 2 and 2 together is a good thing.

I once tackled this subject with a K-woman. She'd just been passing a few comments about foreigners in korea, then had a long convo about how she liked Canada, there were so many koreans there, how great it was, and how she wants to go back. Her diatribe was usually littered with ideas about how to get a boyfriend with the right passport to suit her requirements.

When I aasked "how is it ok for you to go and live in Canada and the USA, but its not Ok for foreigners to come here ?" she replied "because America is a country for anybody".
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jaganath69



Joined: 17 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Junior wrote:
Wangja wrote:
There amost 20,000 Koreans living in UK, most of course around London.


Next time U see koreans in the UK, first make a big fuss of refusing to sit next to them on the tube. then ask them how long they've been in your country and when they will leave. Maybe congratulate them on their use of knives and forks too. If you see one with an english girlfriend, be sure to tell her off for diluting the bloodline.

this is what gets to me most about koreans. they see it as their right to live in the west and enjoy all the benefits, yet they get all wound up at the sight of a single foreigner stepping foot in Korea.


Also, don't forget to run up, say 'anyeong hasseyo' and then run away giggling. Junior, post of the month, my son.
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