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Your opinion on the UN
Leave it the way it is
5%
 5%  [ 1 ]
Change it
38%
 38%  [ 7 ]
Dump it
38%
 38%  [ 7 ]
Dump it and create something new
16%
 16%  [ 3 ]
Other
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Total Votes : 18

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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:18 am    Post subject: The UN Reply with quote

The UN has a lot of problems. Corruption, bias against the US and Israel (though not as much as some of the posters on this site think), has little power, has to rely on too many countries, etc etc.

Anyways, I still think the idea of the UN is great. Most people here just complain about it though (sometimes with good reason) What do you think we could do (I mean our countries) to make it better? Or should we just dump it? Or should we dump it and create something new?
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



Joined: 25 May 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think counties that have bad human rights records ought to lose their UN vote.

This could be measured several ways by the way the observe Geneva conventions , how they treat their minorites -anyway there would be several measuresNow there are those that will say that the US has a bad human rights record ( I don't agree ) but anyway.

The US could fairly easliy get in complience with all international agreements but its enemies could not. It would be a great incentive for the US to get all the up into compliance while at the same time it would isolate just about every government in the world that was hostile to the US.
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 5:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

UN Declaration of Human Rights

Article 29
Everyone has duties to the community in which alone the free and full development of his personality is possible.

In the exercise of his rights and freedoms, everyone shall be subject only to such limitations as are determined by law solely for the purpose of securing due recognition and respect for the rights and freedoms of others and of meeting the just requirements of morality, public order and the general welfare in a democratic society.

These rights and freedoms may in no case be exercised contrary to the purposes and principles of the United Nations Twisted Evil

Everyone remember Orwell's ANIMAL FARM?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_farm
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laogaiguk



Joined: 06 Dec 2005
Location: somewhere in Korea

PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:



Hoiw would this effect all nations that are hostile tot he US?


This is about the UN, a global organisation. Who the hell cares about nations hostile to the US, I am more worried about oppressive nations (and while these do tend to be hostile to the US, this thread is not about the US) hostile to nations that live by what the UN stands for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Kuros



Joined: 27 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 5:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The UN is a nice forum. But we have to be realistic about our expectations of it.
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee



Joined: 25 May 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think they ought to start a rival UN ,

where Only


Europe ,
US
India
Japan
Australia
Canada
South Korea
Taiwan
Russia
South Africa
Thailand
Mexico
Brazil
Argentina
Turkey
Singapore

maybe a few others

have a vote.

Votes by this group would carry more moral authority than UN votes.

When the UN especially the General Assemby gives a vote that the US doesn't like they could take it for a re- vote.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The UN does some nice things (UNESCO, for example). But then Hitler made the trains run on time.

The Security Council is a farce. Scrap it. Keep the bureaucracies that actually do something.
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

laogaiguk wrote:
Who the hell cares about nations hostile to the US


*raises hand*
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote:
I think they ought to start a rival UN ,

where Only


Europe ,
US
India
Japan
Australia
Canada
South Korea
Taiwan
Russia
South Africa
Thailand
Mexico
Brazil
Argentina
Turkey
Singapore

maybe a few others

have a vote.

Votes by this group would carry more moral authority than UN votes.

When the UN especially the General Assemby gives a vote that the US doesn't like they could take it for a re- vote.


Sounds like the EN (Exclusive Nations). I don't agree because there's nothing preventing other nations forming their own alliances and keeping them secret and then it'll be even harder to ascertain what they're up to. It would be shooting ourselves in the foot.
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otis



Joined: 02 Jun 2006

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