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Antrugha



Joined: 05 Jan 2006
Location: On a 2-wheeled engine

PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

poker player wrote:
BEWARE!!! A fire that destroyed several units in a townhouse fire in Vancouver was traced to a laptop that became so hot that it melted the glass top of a desk, fell through and ignited newspapers under the desk. Fire dept said if you leave a laptop on for extended periods of time unattended to be sure it goes into hibernate mode.



hahahahahahaha, there is NO way that is true! The laptop would have shut down before it got remotely hot enough to do that.
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Antrugha wrote:
poker player wrote:
BEWARE!!! A fire that destroyed several units in a townhouse fire in Vancouver was traced to a laptop that became so hot that it melted the glass top of a desk, fell through and ignited newspapers under the desk. Fire dept said if you leave a laptop on for extended periods of time unattended to be sure it goes into hibernate mode.



hahahahahahaha, there is NO way that is true! The laptop would have shut down before it got remotely hot enough to do that.



Yes...a laptop that is fully functional would have shut down. Perhaps this one wasn't...?
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Antrugha



Joined: 05 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

but see, the hardware limitations for the cpu would have called for the cpu to have automatically shut down or melted before it got hot enough to do that, and once the cpu is fried, the system goes kaboom. there would have been SOME component in the system that would have given out long before that was possible. Now, I have heard of laptops causing severe burns on peoples laps, but melting through a desk and lighting paper on fire? That seems a little tall...
but hey, i don't know everything, i'm just saying it's very very very unlikely.
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Antrugha wrote:
but see, the hardware limitations for the cpu would have called for the cpu to have automatically shut down or melted before it got hot enough to do that, and once the cpu is fried, the system goes kaboom. there would have been SOME component in the system that would have given out long before that was possible. Now, I have heard of laptops causing severe burns on peoples laps, but melting through a desk and lighting paper on fire? That seems a little tall...
but hey, i don't know everything, i'm just saying it's very very very unlikely.



Unlikely or rare?
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Delirium's Brother



Joined: 08 May 2006
Location: Out in that field with Rumi, waiting for you to join us!

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

poker player wrote:
BEWARE!!! A fire that destroyed several units in a townhouse fire in Vancouver was traced to a laptop that became so hot that it melted the glass top of a desk, fell through and ignited newspapers under the desk. Fire dept said if you leave a laptop on for extended periods of time unattended to be sure it goes into hibernate mode.


This is total bull...the average melting point of glass is approx. 1175 *C. The whole laptop would have burst into flames before that happened. This is how urban legends like "Fan Death" get started. Shame on you! But naming this preternatural phenomenon could be fun and worthy of a new thread!
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Demophobe



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am more inclined to believe that the laptop heated the table glass (which is usually very thin and cheap) and then its weight broke it. It fell to the floor, shorted out...

Yeah... I admit that it's a stretch, but....

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poker player



Joined: 27 Sep 2004
Location: On the river

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Delirium's Brother wrote:
poker player wrote:
BEWARE!!! A fire that destroyed several units in a townhouse fire in Vancouver was traced to a laptop that became so hot that it melted the glass top of a desk, fell through and ignited newspapers under the desk. Fire dept said if you leave a laptop on for extended periods of time unattended to be sure it goes into hibernate mode.


This is total bull...the average melting point of glass is approx. 1175 *C. The whole laptop would have burst into flames before that happened. This is how urban legends like "Fan Death" get started. Shame on you! But naming this preternatural phenomenon could be fun and worthy of a new thread!


I saw the report on Vancouver TV with an announcer relating it to a Dell that exploded in Japan in the last month. Shame on me? Shame on you for calling someone a liar you don't even know. I've got better things to do than write BS messages on Dave's. If the report is wrong OK- BUT IM NOT A LIAR-I WATCHED THE REPORT.
People who scour message boards looking for opportunities to call other people liars must have a real interesting life.
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Antrugha wrote:
Now, I have heard of laptops causing severe burns on peoples laps, but melting through a desk and lighting paper on fire?

I think you all might be hung up on the semantics here; How about the defective battery of a laptop in a recharge cycle (i.e. the laptop still plugged in)?
That seems quite possible to me, and would also encompass a news report describing a "laptop melting" and/or "exploding". There have been a lot of reports of defective batteries for Dell and Toshiba (I think) over the last year, most of them (if I recall correctly) being manufactured in Taiwan (again, not meaning to single out Taiwan, but that's the one country I remember reading about in association with defective laptop batteries).

So, you could both be right.

Or- perhaps more accurately, and especially since apparently I'm an "asshat" for being one of those pointing out his deficiencies in his tech forum posts- Antrugha is wrong.
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Thunndarr



Joined: 30 Sep 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"I heard a small poof:" The story of a Dell on fire

Humphrey Cheung

July 31, 2006 14:54



Vernon Hills (IL) - It began with a soft pop and then turned into a one hot and blazing notebook: Henrik Gustavvson saw one of his firm's Dell computers bursting into flames and documented the events. The story, first published in the Tom's Hardware Forumz, have become an Internet sensation - reason enough for TG Daily to learn more about the story behind the pictures.


http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/07/31/dellonfire_laptopfire/
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