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bigverne



Joined: 12 May 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Many things are illegal in Korea that people get with relative ease, such as pot


You cannot get pot with 'relative ease' in Korea.
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bluelake



Joined: 01 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bigverne wrote:
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Many things are illegal in Korea that people get with relative ease, such as pot


You cannot get pot with 'relative ease' in Korea.


I beg to differ. I knew a guy who got it all the time, no problem. Heck, I've seen it growing wild in the countryside before. Personally, not something I'm interested in, but if someone wants it, they can get it.
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Hyeon Een



Joined: 24 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bet you're getting PMs from about 1,000 canadians right now haha.

I've been offered it a few times in korea (and I mean a FEW) which is totally unlike any western country I've been to or lived in where it was offered to me on a daily/hourly basis.

A lot of the stuff growing wild here is pretty useless hemp rather than the stuff Canadian dreams are made of, so you might have been mistaken as you don't seem to be a fan =)

I only knew one guy who used to go round saying "Hey, do you want to buy some weed?" He was a crazy Kyopo who was trying to earn himself some extra cash through reward money though. (His other conversation starter was "So, do you teach privates?"). He used to freak me out.

He was an orphan who had been adopted by an American family at the age of 10, so obviously had some Korean language knowledge from his childhood. He'd also lived in Korea for more than 5 years, and I know for a fact he speaks a decent level of Korean. Yet last time I ran into him I was with a couple of Koreans and he didn't remember that I'd met him before. He gave me his standard pot/privates questions which I brushed off. Then asked my Korean friends to order some beer for him because he didn't know how Rolling Eyes . Weirdo.
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bluelake wrote:
Personally, not something I'm interested in, but if someone wants it, they can get it.


...Ryst Helmut?

(Just kidding.)
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bigverne



Joined: 12 May 2004

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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if someone wants it, they can get it.


But they cannot do it with 'relative ease'. In London, I can walk into any bar or pub, ask a few people and easily acquire some good quality, cheap weed. In Korea, that is simply not possible. You need to know someone who knows someone. Even then, it is likely to be overpriced garbage.
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pocketfluff



Joined: 30 May 2006
Location: Washington, DC (school) and Los Angeles, CA (home)

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My generic response (didn't read the whole thread):

It is not the government's job to save us from ourselves by making our choices for us.
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bluelake



Joined: 01 Dec 2005

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bigverne wrote:
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if someone wants it, they can get it.


But they cannot do it with 'relative ease'. In London, I can walk into any bar or pub, ask a few people and easily acquire some good quality, cheap weed. In Korea, that is simply not possible. You need to know someone who knows someone. Even then, it is likely to be overpriced garbage.


Relative implies a relationship. In relation to getting some other recreational pharmaceuticals, it is easy, so what I said about relative ease stands. Your mileage may vary.

Even though it was never my interest, I grew up around the stuff, so I'm not ignorant of it. Back then, it seemed as common as drinking water.

I've lived in Korea a very long time and have seen many things over the years, including pot use. I think one reason it is not more common here is because it never caught on like it did in the West (or have as many years doing so). The point being, there are probably many factors, other than its prohibition, why it is not as common as in the West. Once something is common in a country, and people take a liking to it, it becomes virtually impossible to get rid of--the original subject of this thread is a good example: tobacco is everywhere; if it were outlawed, a large segment of the population would become outlaws. Prohibition never stopped anything.
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skconqueror



Joined: 31 Jul 2005

PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The more and more I live in Korea, the more I hope that they would drop dead or at least get lung cancer in the foreseeable future Cool

pocketfluff wrote:

It is not the government's job to save us from ourselves by making our choices for us.


Ya, that is your parent's job.. opps, I guess they failed that one too Rolling Eyes
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itaewonguy



Joined: 25 Mar 2003

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bluelake wrote:
Eunoia wrote:
No, they shouldn't be illegal. They should, however, cost 10,000 Won - or more - per pack.


Agreed.


why would you want to help the tobacco companies get even more richer than they are!!!???
raising the price will not make people stop! it will only make the government more profit and the tobacco companies more rich which will then make them purchase other companies and then make them even more so powerful!!

cigerettes should be illegal just as marijuana is..
then all the police officers can go arrest themselves hahahaa
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

10,000 people per day die from smoking-related phenomena. There are obvious health reasons why it should be banned. I think everything should be either legal or illegal. By my way of thinking, as things stand, cigarettes are legal, alcohol is legal (and you'd be hard-pressed to find any more destructive substances), thus heroin-use for nonmedical purposes should be decriminalized and so too crack, marijuana, the lot!

Or, we should ban everything. The distinction between legal, destructive drugs and illegal ones is totally arbitrary and based on what we're used to. It's a highly conservative state of affairs, it isn't working and in my view deserves review.

Of course, I'm not in favour of prohibition. I do not think cigarettes should be banned, because prohibition of heroin in our home countries is economically disastrous and the same would happen if the black market were to absorb cigarettes. Rather than spend money fruitlessly trying to crush something, we should legalize it and tax it. Simple choice: do you want gangsters, smugglers getting rich(er), or do you want the money to be invested back into society via the legal distribution and taxation on these valuables?
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