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khreporter
Joined: 22 Jul 2006
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 Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:35 am Post subject: Korea Herald� Cyber bullies, animal rights, multiculturalism |
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This week�s edition of Life&Community investigates cyber-stalking, a local animal rights campaign against eating dog meat, and multiculturalism in today�s Korea.
We have also begun preparations for a series of articles to investigate the most common complaints made by English teachers here in Korea such as the non-payment of severance bonus, last minute dismissal before the end of contract and so on. Your collaboration is vital to pinpoint the worst offenders, and identify and expose the individuals concerned. Write in confidence to [email protected]
The Korea Herald has been accused of not highlighting the good work that teachers do here, both in school and in the community. In fact we have published several articles on this theme, but always welcome more. Send contributions or your ideas for stories to [email protected]
Letters for publication need your name and location in Korea. Send to [email protected]
The internet version of Life&Community will be online Tuesday evening. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong
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| Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 5:02 am Post subject: |
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| khreporter wrote: |
| The Korea Herald has been accused of not highlighting the good work that teachers do here, both in school and in the community. |
KH,
And you wonder why? How about the story about cyber stalking on ESL websites?
http://www.eslcafe.com/forums/korea/viewtopic.php?t=62614
If your paper (and other forms of media including TV news and websites that publish "news") would stop printing stories that make broad generalizations and are nothing more then sensationalism, then possibly you might get some foreigners to work with you.
I think your headed in the right direction, however if I personally were contacted by your paper I'd think twice about trusting any of your reporters. |
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khreporter
Joined: 22 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 8:09 am Post subject: |
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The Korea Herald does acknowledge that the problem is widespread and not confined to any particular ethnic or racial group. We are also aware that a minority of "netizens" - domestic and foreign - are the authors of the offensive material that is giving the government an excuse to take action.
http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2006/08/02/200608020015.asp
The accusation that we constantly make broad generalizations casting the English language teaching community in a negative light is unwarranted, unfair and not based on reality.
The Korea Herald has repeatedly asserted that a minority of foreigners are responsible for giving the Korean public, and the vernacular media, ammunition to fire at the foreign community as a whole.
The Korea Herald has also repeatedly called on the foreign community to send in articles or letters to highlight the contribution that they make here.
There is plenty of anecdotal "evidence" that English teachers have been treated badly. So many posts on message boards: "I was fired in the last month of my contract. This is the third time this has happened." But the school, the school director, or even the poor teacher always remain anonymous. This treatment is often cited as an excuse for anti-Korean posts on message boards.
The Korea Herald has previously reported that the Seoul Help Center receives numerous calls every day from teachers claiming to have been cheated or otherwise unfairly treated by their school directors. The SHC, however, refuses to offer anything more than the basic figures. We know it happens. Now we need facts.
So unless you give us the hard evidence to name and shame these offenders, what do you expect us to do?
The original offer stands. You can contact us in confidence, and confident that we will investigate. |
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The King of Kwangju
Joined: 10 Feb 2003
Location: New York City
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| Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 8:20 am Post subject: |
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| So unless you give us the hard evidence to name and shame these offenders, what do you expect us to do? |
Um, how about journalism?
Aren't journalists supposed to get the facts? Aren't they supposed to get to the real story? Aren't they supposed to do the research?
Reading message boards is easier in these hot summer months, but really, if you get all your scoops from the internet and wait for teachers to send in stories, people will soon figure out that they don't need to read your newspaper, they can just read the stories on message boards.
I mean, seriously. |
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vlcupper
Joined: 12 Aug 2004
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 8:25 am Post subject: |
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| The King of Kwangju wrote: |
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| So unless you give us the hard evidence to name and shame these offenders, what do you expect us to do? |
Um, how about journalism?
Aren't journalists supposed to get the facts? Aren't they supposed to get to the real story? Aren't they supposed to do the research?
Reading message boards is easier in these hot summer months, but really, if you get all your scoops from the internet and wait for teachers to send in stories, people will soon figure out that they don't need to read your newspaper, they can just read the stories on message boards.
I mean, seriously. |
Truly. I love the last sentence. "You can contact us in confidence, and be confident we will investigate." We can be confident they will squeal to the former employers getting the teachers in even more crap. |
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khreporter
Joined: 22 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 8:33 am Post subject: |
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"Um, how about journalism?
Aren't journalists supposed to get the facts? Aren't they supposed to get to the real story? Aren't they supposed to do the research?"
Yes. You are absolutely right. We do that by meeting with and interviewing the people concerned. Which is exactly what The Korea Herald has invited you to do. |
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vlcupper
Joined: 12 Aug 2004
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 8:47 am Post subject: |
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Honestly? Nobody on here or pretty much any other board trusts the KH. You keep printing crap about teachers, you then have the gall to deny it, and you go after Dave's like it's a personal thing, and then you wonder why nobody will talk to you. Seriously. Think about it.
Batboy is not your editor-in-chief. The KH is not a tabloid. Stop writing like it is. |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 8:51 am Post subject: |
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The original offer stands. You can contact us in confidence, and confident that we will investigate. |
If I do your job for you, how much will you pay me? |
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SuperFly
Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: In the doghouse
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| Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 8:51 am Post subject: |
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| We should send the competition this whole thread! They can publish it! |
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vlcupper
Joined: 12 Aug 2004
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 8:54 am Post subject: |
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| Bulsajo wrote: |
| khreporter wrote: |
The original offer stands. You can contact us in confidence, and confident that we will investigate. |
If I do your job for you, how much will you pay me? |
I see what he means. He's offering to interview people and to help. Or so he claims. But I stand by what I said. Nobody on here trusts the Korea Herald or its reporters. |
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SuperFly
Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: In the doghouse
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| Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 8:59 am Post subject: |
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I'm wondering, do people still buy the Herald like we used to back when Korea had a few internet cafe's and we were all on dial up access from home when they charged you by the minute? I used to buy one everyday and read it on the subway. Seems like these days with the availability of internet news - people keep buying or no?
Just wondering if they do it as much as we used to? |
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seoulsista
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 8:59 am Post subject: |
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| khreporter wrote: |
The Korea Herald does acknowledge that the problem is widespread and not confined to any particular ethnic or racial group. We are also aware that a minority of "netizens" - domestic and foreign - are the authors of the offensive material that is giving the government an excuse to take action.
http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/SITE/data/html_dir/2006/08/02/200608020015.asp
The accusation that we constantly make broad generalizations casting the English language teaching community in a negative light is unwarranted, unfair and not based on reality. |
You took a ridiculously ignorant post, presented as snapshot of the whole site and printed none of the refuting responses. Now you claim to be balanced? The story speaks for itself.
[/quote]The Korea Herald has repeatedly asserted that a minority of foreigners are responsible for giving the Korean public, and the vernacular media, ammunition to fire at the foreign community as a whole.[/quote]
Not in the article about racists posts on Dave's you didn't.
[/quote]The Korea Herald has also repeatedly called on the foreign community to send in articles or letters to highlight the contribution that they make here.
There is plenty of anecdotal "evidence" that English teachers have been treated badly. So many posts on message boards: "I was fired in the last month of my contract. This is the third time this has happened." But the school, the school director, or even the poor teacher always remain anonymous. This treatment is often cited as an excuse for anti-Korean posts on message boards.
The Korea Herald has previously reported that the Seoul Help Center receives numerous calls every day from teachers claiming to have been cheated or otherwise unfairly treated by their school directors. The SHC, however, refuses to offer anything more than the basic figures. We know it happens. Now we need facts. [/quote]
Oh thankya' mista'. You real generous. So now you want the people you've insulted to make your job easier and bring the information to you? Try working for a living.
If it was your noble intention to brigde the cultural gap between foreign teacher and Korean society than perhaps printing an inflamatory opinion peice wasn't the best way to clear up all the misunderstanding.
You will probably get some desperate responses to this but the paper has no real legitimacy amoungst here. Your poor writing doesn't get the benefit of the doubt from native speakers who know what a real newspaper looks like.
[/quote] So unless you give us the hard evidence to name and shame these offenders, what do you expect us to do? [/quote]
Please.  If your paper wrote about Koreans the way it does about foreigners you would audited, your cars would get towed, the plumbing in the office would suddenly not work, and you would be out of business by the end of the year.
Writing negative stories about foriegners is popular and easy.
[/quote] The original offer stands. You can contact us in confidence, and confident that we will investigate.[/quote] |
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SuperFly
Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: In the doghouse
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| Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:06 am Post subject: |
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| Soul sista, there's something about you that I really, really like. |
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seoulsista
Joined: 31 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:12 am Post subject: |
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Thanks.  |
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davai!
Joined: 04 Dec 2005
Location: Kuwait
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| Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:23 am Post subject: |
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| khreporter wrote: |
| You can contact us in confidence, and confident that we will investigate. |
I'm Mike Bogaslawski and I'm in Y'our Corner!
never mind if you don't get that |
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