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Phoenix264



Joined: 31 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 11:33 am    Post subject: Korean Public School's Reply with quote

Hello Everyone,

Just wondering if anyone has taught or is teaching at a public school in Korea. What are the work conditions like? Do they have a set curriculum? Are the teacher's treated well?

Cheers

Phoenix
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Canucksaram



Joined: 29 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 12:01 pm    Post subject: Duh! Reply with quote

Instead of asking everyone here to take ten minutes of their time to write you an answer, why don't you spend ten minutes of your time and browse the board looking for information?

You might also want to check on how to use a plural "s" while you're at it.

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Are the teacher's treated well?


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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes they have a set curriculum. Its alot of material to cover in 40 minutes if you do it all.

How are you treated? Varies depending on yourself, your co-teachers and the admin of the school itself.

I often felt that the Korean teachers resented the fact that I was at their school. For the most part I was left pretty much alone.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1. Set cirriculum: not at my school

2. Treated well?: Yes, by the faculty. No, by the administration

3. Working conditions: Absolutely freezing in the shared office, even with a kerosene space heater. So bad I took a blanket to school to wrap around my legs. The Korean teachers work an average of 15 hours at my school; I had 22 hours. They get actual vacations during vacation. I get 3 week summer camps.
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formerflautist



Joined: 30 May 2006

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't get a set curriculum at my public school but you might not at a hogwan. I was told to do what I wanted. The hours are longer but I teach less than in a hogwan. I put up with less crap now and my apartment is a lot nicer (but I don't live in Seoul anymore.) There is a sticky on this in the FAQ. You can also do a search and come up with a lot of information.
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adventureman



Joined: 18 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Duh! Reply with quote

Canucksaram wrote:
Instead of asking everyone here to take ten minutes of their time to write you an answer, why don't you spend ten minutes of your time and browse the board looking for information?

You might also want to check on how to use a plural "s" while you're at it.


You might also want want to check on how to have the stick removed from your a$$
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PaperTiger



Joined: 31 May 2005
Location: Ulaanbataar

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, seig heil grammar nazi...sounds like you need a couple of those little green bottles.
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Corporal



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All talk of Nazis aside, it is really not that difficult to spell curriculum properly.
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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have to teach 45 kids at once and you get shat on by your Korean co-teacher. Administration ignore you. You have to clean your classroom and do shared cleaning duties for the bathroom. Providing weekly lesson plans is the norm. Classes are generally cancelled without notice. If you don't have a Korean co-teacher, the students are unruly and nobody does anything to make them behave.

Kids hardly learn anything, but you get paid on time.

Razz
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zappadelta



Joined: 31 Aug 2004

PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 1:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jacl wrote:
You have to teach 45 kids at once and you get shat on by your Korean co-teacher. Administration ignore you. You have to clean your classroom and do shared cleaning duties for the bathroom. Providing weekly lesson plans is the norm. Classes are generally cancelled without notice. If you don't have a Korean co-teacher, the students are unruly and nobody does anything to make them behave.

Kids hardly learn anything, but you get paid on time.

Razz


Clean my classroom? I don't think so. Got 4 students from 5-3 class that come by every afternoon and clean it for me.
Providing lesson plans? Nope.
You gotta learn how to say "No" my friend.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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1) You have to teach 45 kids at once and 2) you get shat on by your Korean co-teacher. 3) Administration ignore you. 4) You have to clean your classroom and 5) do shared cleaning duties for the bathroom. 5) Providing weekly lesson plans is the norm. 6) Classes are generally cancelled without notice. 7) If you don't have a Korean co-teacher, the students are unruly and nobody does anything to make them behave.

Kids hardly learn anything, but you get paid on time.



1) My largest class is 21.

2) It depends on the co-teacher.

3) Yes.

4) Never even once.

5) Never in a million years.

6) 100% true, but that happens in any 'educational' place in Korea.

7) True in my experience.

jacl is operating on the assumption that he/she is the center of the universe again. It's never a good idea to confuse your personal experience with universal experiences.

I don't want to only react to what someone else said.

I do think the quality of your experience in a public school will depend on your luck of the draw with the main Korean co-teacher. The one I worked with all year was not good and my experience suffered. She is gone now, and there is a new guy who is cool. I am sure if I stick around for another year (and that is STILL up in the air) that my experience would be much different...and I'm 92% sure it would be an improvement.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jacl wrote:
You have to teach 45 kids at once and you get shat on by your Korean co-teacher. Administration ignore you. You have to clean your classroom and do shared cleaning duties for the bathroom. Providing weekly lesson plans is the norm. Classes are generally cancelled without notice. If you don't have a Korean co-teacher, the students are unruly and nobody does anything to make them behave.

Kids hardly learn anything, but you get paid on time.

Razz


Making stuff up again are we?

I have never taught anywhere close to 45 kids
My Korean co-teachers defer to me when it comes to planning lessons
Adminstration has gone out of their way to accomodate me.
The students clean the classroom and we have three adjumas who clean the bathrooms.
While I do make weekly lessons plans I do not have to "provide" them to anyone.
It's rare that I am not told about cancelled classes beforehand.
I do not have a Korean co-teacher for half my classes and the students are well-behaved. If a kid steps out of line , I simply ask in Korean, if he or she would like me to call their parents and tell them they are misbehaving. That puts a damper on any nonsense fast. Alternatively they are kicked out of the classroom where if the Principal or VP sees them, they land in even more trouble.
When we first started working on the textbook they could barely get through one page. Now they whip through 4 pages like nothing.


You have to learn how to adjust things to your liking. Being able to communiciate in basic Korean goes a VERY long way towards that.

Oh yes, don't assume that the way things are at your hakwon are the way thing are at a public school. Laughing


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jacl



Joined: 31 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
jacl wrote:
You have to teach 45 kids at once and you get shat on by your Korean co-teacher. Administration ignore you. You have to clean your classroom and do shared cleaning duties for the bathroom. Providing weekly lesson plans is the norm. Classes are generally cancelled without notice. If you don't have a Korean co-teacher, the students are unruly and nobody does anything to make them behave.

Kids hardly learn anything, but you get paid on time.


Making stuff up again are we?

I have never taught anywhere close to 45 kids
My Korean co-teachers defer to me when it comes to planning lessons
Adminstration has gone out of their way to accomodate me.
The students clean the classroom and we have three adjumas who clean the bathrooms.
While I do make weekly lessons plans I do not have to "provide" them to anyone.
It's rare that I am not told about cancelled classes beforehand.
I do not have a Korean co-teacher for half my classes and the students are well-behaved. If a kid steps out of line, I simply ask in Korean, if he or she would like me to call their parents and tell them they are misbehaving. That puts a damper on any nonsense fast.
When we first started working on the textbook they could barely get through one page. Now they whip through 4 pages like nothing.


You have to learn how to adjust things to your liking. Being able to communiciate in basic Korean goes a VERY long way towards that.

Oh yes, don't assume that the way things are at your hakwon are the way thing are at a public school.


Razz

Speed teaching are we? 90% of them hear the Charlie Brown teacher. Razz

I summoned you and you answered my call. See how I can make you dance?
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Ya-ta Boy"]
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1I do think the quality of your experience in a public school will depend on your luck of the draw with the main Korean co-teacher. The one I worked with all year was not good and my experience suffered. She is gone now, and there is a new guy who is cool. I am sure if I stick around for another year (and that is STILL up in the air) that my experience would be much different...and I'm 92% sure it would be an improvement.


Mr. Ya-ta Boy. I was under the impression that you were NOT re -signing. At least that's what I gathered from previous posts. Good to hear things are starting to look up for you. You're one of the saner posters on this board.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jacl wrote:
TheUrbanMyth wrote:
jacl wrote:
You have to teach 45 kids at once and you get shat on by your Korean co-teacher. Administration ignore you. You have to clean your classroom and do shared cleaning duties for the bathroom. Providing weekly lesson plans is the norm. Classes are generally cancelled without notice. If you don't have a Korean co-teacher, the students are unruly and nobody does anything to make them behave.

Kids hardly learn anything, but you get paid on time.


Making stuff up again are we?

I have never taught anywhere close to 45 kids
My Korean co-teachers defer to me when it comes to planning lessons
Adminstration has gone out of their way to accomodate me.
The students clean the classroom and we have three adjumas who clean the bathrooms.
While I do make weekly lessons plans I do not have to "provide" them to anyone.
It's rare that I am not told about cancelled classes beforehand.
I do not have a Korean co-teacher for half my classes and the students are well-behaved. If a kid steps out of line, I simply ask in Korean, if he or she would like me to call their parents and tell them they are misbehaving. That puts a damper on any nonsense fast.
When we first started working on the textbook they could barely get through one page. Now they whip through 4 pages like nothing.


You have to learn how to adjust things to your liking. Being able to communiciate in basic Korean goes a VERY long way towards that.

Oh yes, don't assume that the way things are at your hakwon are the way thing are at a public school.


Razz

Speed teaching are we? 90% of them hear the Charlie Brown teacher. Razz

I summoned you and you answered my call. See how I can make you dance?


I knew you were confused and I have some time, so I thought I would enlighten you. Be glad that I graciously decided to throw a little pearl of wisdom your way.
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