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Egomaniacal Music Producers Ruin Potentially Great Albums

 
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Bo Peabody



Joined: 25 Aug 2005

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 12:17 pm    Post subject: Egomaniacal Music Producers Ruin Potentially Great Albums Reply with quote

There've been many producers flaunting their industry clout to land production deals with promising young talent only to ruin what might have been an uncontested five-star all-time classic album.

David Bowie's murky mixing of Raw Power or Elvis Costello's butchering of Rum Sodomy & the Lash or the first Specials album comes to mind.



What other albums like that can you think of?
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The King of Kwangju



Joined: 10 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Specials' selftitled album is a masterpiece.

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mount real



Joined: 07 Apr 2005

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, how about Hetfield & Ulrich's production for ...And Justice For All?
That album sounds like crap, even if the songs were pretty good....
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robot



Joined: 07 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 3:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wolf parade's apologies to the queen mary was butchered by isaac brock of modest mouse, who apparently blew much of his payment on drugs and was too out of it to do a good job.

closer to home, my band's producer/manager managed to weasel well over $50,000 from our unsuspecting indie label last year, absolutely destroyed our album by sucking all emotion from it, and split the band in two with his caustic personality and mental abuse. then he got coked up and jumped off the 7th floor of a building.

ROBT.
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cwemory



Joined: 14 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim D!ckenson's production ruined The Replacements' Pleased to Meet Me. It was too clean, too detailed, and canned. Everything The Replacements were not.
Plus sax and keyboards have no place on an album of a band that ever considered itself hardcore.
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Tiberious aka Sparkles



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let It Be, Phil Spector.

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captain planet



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

robot wrote:
wolf parade's apologies to the queen mary was butchered by isaac brock of modest mouse, who apparently blew much of his payment on drugs and was too out of it to do a good job.

closer to home, my band's producer/manager managed to weasel well over $50,000 from our unsuspecting indie label last year, absolutely destroyed our album by sucking all emotion from it, and split the band in two with his caustic personality and mental abuse. then he got coked up and jumped off the 7th floor of a building.

ROBT.


what do you play?
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Bo Peabody



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The King of Kwangju wrote:
The Specials' selftitled album is a masterpiece.

End of thread.


I know it wasn't meant to be a reggae album but the bass is virtually nonexistent and the treble's too shrill. For a ska band renowned for their live set equipped with brass, drums, organs, two guitars and bass, there's no reason their debut album should sound so paper thin. The songs are classic but Costello butchered the production on that album.


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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Specials still came through on recordings a lot better than most other bands at the time, particularly Bad Manners. None of their recordings sound right.

One CD that was totally ruined by a producer was the 13 Steps CD "This is the Reality that We Confront." They decided to get a big flashy producer with a long resume to master it, and he ended up editing the edge out of it. The unmastered tracks are great and the final album sounds like slop.

Oh, and the best part: the producer's name is Alan Douches.
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cdninkorea



Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only two bad songs on Starsailor's Silence is Easy were produced by Phil Spector, and they were awful. The other songs were great.
Also, according to people I've spoken to who have seen them in concert, those two songs are great when Spector doesn't get in the way.
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Woland



Joined: 10 May 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slightly off topic but fitting the egomania theme, when Warren Zevon was making his first album Wanted Dead or Alive, he drunkenly fired the producer, thinking he could finish the job himself. He made an absolute mess of it, turning what could have been a good album into a virtually unlistenable pile of crap. It was seven years before he got to make another, the eponymous Warren Zevon, which is a masterpiece (produced by Jackson Browne)
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