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gochubandit
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 Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:16 pm Post subject: privates - how to prepare lessons? |
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| got offered private tutoring opportunities in the upcoming months. never actually done it. and i'm not really concerned with the risk involved. but i've never actually taught strictly conversational english, so i'm not quite sure how to prepare for a lesson. any prep needed? or do i just go in and talk? what's the typical going rate to ask for? i've got 2 guys from the corporate area and got some price negotiation to do. any help would be appreciated. thx |
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jinju
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| Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:23 pm Post subject: |
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| If you dont know maybe you are in over your head? |
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SuperHero
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| Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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If you dont' know how to prepare a lesson, then what are you doing teachign in the first place.
I recommend you not do this, since it seems pretty clear that the students will not be getting their moneys worth. |
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Juregen
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| Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:53 am Post subject: Re: privates - how to prepare lessons? |
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| gochubandit wrote: |
| got offered private tutoring opportunities in the upcoming months. never actually done it. and i'm not really concerned with the risk involved. but i've never actually taught strictly conversational english, so i'm not quite sure how to prepare for a lesson. any prep needed? or do i just go in and talk? what's the typical going rate to ask for? i've got 2 guys from the corporate area and got some price negotiation to do. any help would be appreciated. thx |
i'll give a go at giving you a hand.
First of all, you NEED to prepare. It is not a joke. You need stimuli to make them to talk, you need them to teach verbosity, you need to expand their vocabularly by i would say 6 words per hour.
These people will refrain from talking, so you have to prepare a way to make them talk. Best is to first provide an example on how you might proceed. Followed by trying to use their imagination. the last bit is the trickiest bit, because you have to be prepared to correct them, give them the right answer, and make then repeat it.
You also need to establish a relationship with these people. They have to like you. If they don't like or trust you, you won't get anywhere. That does mean becoming their friend, .... up to a point.
Privates can be easy, IF YOU PREPARE AND KNOW WHT YOU ARE DOING.
If you go there without preparation, be prepared for one hour of SILENCE. |
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robot
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some thoughts:
-if they are corporate types, they will likely have high demands.
-it's best to sit down together and make an individual study plan with learning targets
-there are no classes where you just go in and talk. even for simple conversation classes, it's best to bring in supplementary material with the vocabulary and/or grammar patterns being studied. also, remember that it's they who need to be doing most of the talking -- you already are an expert.
-keep a record each class of their spoken errors and at the end highlight their strengths and weaknesses.
-above all, it's necessary to give the learner the feeling that they are advancing in their abilities. chart in some way their progress. i do this with before-and-after tests.
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gochubandit
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| Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 2:26 am Post subject: |
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If you dont' know how to prepare a lesson, then what are you doing teachign in the first place.
I recommend you not do this, since it seems pretty clear that the students will not be getting their moneys worth. |
moronic and unhelpful response. if you're not gonna be helpful, then what are you doing posting in the first place?
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First of all, you NEED to prepare. It is not a joke. You need stimuli to make them to talk, you need them to teach verbosity, you need to expand their vocabularly by i would say 6 words per hour.
These people will refrain from talking, so you have to prepare a way to make them talk. Best is to first provide an example on how you might proceed. Followed by trying to use their imagination. the last bit is the trickiest bit, because you have to be prepared to correct them, give them the right answer, and make then repeat it.
You also need to establish a relationship with these people. They have to like you. If they don't like or trust you, you won't get anywhere. That does mean becoming their friend, .... up to a point.
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more what i'm lookin for. i haven't met them yet and they're corporate types, so i'm not really sure what they're lookin for, improving everyday or business english. my idea was to make them carry around notebook and flashcards to work on vocabulary retention and summarize english language articles, but then, i'm not even sure what level of english they're really at either.
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-if they are corporate types, they will likely have high demands.
-it's best to sit down together and make an individual study plan with learning targets
-there are no classes where you just go in and talk. even for simple conversation classes, it's best to bring in supplementary material with the vocabulary and/or grammar patterns being studied. also, remember that it's they who need to be doing most of the talking -- you already are an expert.
-keep a record each class of their spoken errors and at the end highlight their strengths and weaknesses.
-above all, it's necessary to give the learner the feeling that they are advancing in their abilities. chart in some way their progress. i do this with before-and-after tests. |
ok even more helpful. i was considering setting up some diagnostic tests and testing them every month or so to see if they've been studying/learning. keep note of their errors and bring supplementary materials (would news articles be too hard?? should i select the material or should i let them do it, so they can focus on areas they want to improve on?). got it. |
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Grotto
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Best thing to do? Sit down with them and find out what they want! Your first meeting should be talking about what they want out of these get togethers....assessing their level of English(why bother planning out something that may be totally inappropriate or unwanted)
Thats my advice, they are the customers so find out what your customers want!
When I taught privates to adults often they just wanted to discuss things in English, topics were: sports, politics, travel....etc. |
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Captain Corea
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| After you do what Grotto says, head to a book store and look for adult conversation texts. If you're not sure where to start, they might help you. |
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gochubandit
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| Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:04 am Post subject: |
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| After you do what Grotto says, head to a book store and look for adult conversation texts. If you're not sure where to start, they might help you. |
any recs on good adult convo books? |
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Captain Corea
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| Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:09 am Post subject: |
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I use a number of them... depending on level and demand.
You tell me what they are looking for, and I'll tell ya the book.  |
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Juregen
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| Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 3:12 am Post subject: |
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| After you do what Grotto says, head to a book store and look for adult conversation texts. If you're not sure where to start, they might help you. |
any recs on good adult convo books? |
I bought some but they are somewhat of a dissapointment.
ofcourse, i just might have bought the three worst books in the field.
I prefer now to just make my own, and work with my own background. |
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Japchae
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| Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:24 am Post subject: Adult Conversation Books |
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| The best books for adults I've found is the Pagoda SLE (Speaking, Listening, Expression) series. Twenty lessons per book, good content, and well organized. |
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SuperHero
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| Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:51 pm Post subject: |
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If you dont' know how to prepare a lesson, then what are you doing teachign in the first place.
I recommend you not do this, since it seems pretty clear that the students will not be getting their moneys worth. |
moronic and unhelpful response. if you're not gonna be helpful, then what are you doing posting in the first place? |
actually it was very helpful. You, sir are the one lacking ability and intelligence thus my recommendation that you don't teach privates. |
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The Man known as The Man
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You won't be making any money doing privates.
Privates are illegal. |
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bnrockin
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I'm a private tutor for a Korean guy here in the states. I consider myself lucky because he is pretty talkative and friendly and his family likes me. We established a schedule that looks something like this (keep in mind that he was having problems communicating with his advisor so this one is personalized for him): M-ask me questions (helps them practice listening), T-presentation (comes up with anything to make a small presentation on for me), W-article (he finds an article online and reads it and prepares mentally to give me a summary about it-article is in English of course. He ID's the difficult words to help his vocabulary). TR-My choice (I'll either bring an article for him to read, a conversation topic, something to debate, a picture for him to describe, make him write a journal entry, etc.) F-conversation (this one you will need to prepare subject(s) to talk about).
As for pay, I've been told 15-28 U.S. dollars an hour (15,000-28,000 won). I personally started with 15 an hour because I had no experiance before. I recently got a new person I tutor as well and I plan on charging at least 16 or 17 an hour since I am more experianced. |
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