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[Bulsajo]

[Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee]

[ontheway]

I am getting tired of the argument that Hizbollah and Al Qaeda and their brethren should give up their war. These individuals have been radicalized. They will never give up their war. They have to be captured or killed. If captured and released they will begin fighting again.

The difficult problem is that we have to stop those who have already been radicalized WITHOUT creating another generation of terrorists. This is where US foreign policy has failed.


Israel has shown over and over and over again that they do want peace. Many moderate arabs and moslems want peace as well.

Individuals and groups such as Hezbollah only want war until their genocidal goals have been achieved. These people will (unfortunately and sadly) NEVER give up their war.

[ddeubel]

[ontheway]

Yes dddeubel,

We have to somehow deal with those in the Arab who are moderate, young, poor ... whatever and NOT YET radicalized. The greatest help would come from not killing them or their relatives, not shooting or bombing them, not blowing up their stuff. To let them build free and prosperous societies. We need to do these things so that they will remain moderate and peaceful.

At the same time, those who have already been radicalized must be killed or captured. They will NEVER give up their fight unless their genocidal goal of the destruction of Israel and the Jewish people is satisfied. These radicals do not care about the Arab peoples except as sources for more radical warriors and funds for fighting.

Thus, we must deal with both groups simultaneously. We must aid the former and eliminate the latter. Quite problematic. Neither simplistic military action nor simplistic social welfare will suffice.

[ddeubel]

ontheway,

I agree with most of what you say ................until the point where you say "we" should kill those who are "radical" . Truth be told, there is not a clear line regarding who is a radical and who isn't. And are we to just keep declaring who is and who isn't and who should be killed and who shouldn't, as we wish? Making it up as we going, when we wish? Detaining, torturing , imprisoning, killing based on innuendo, association etc....? are we to just keep the course of killing anyone who is suspect? What moral degeneracy has entered us?

I say, unless these "radicals" actually kill and bomb (as AlQaeda), they are to be dealt with civily and diplomatically. We are to look at the underlying causes and not just "shoot". We should be strong against a threat but not taking the route of the Bush "shoot first, bomb first" , ask questions later after all the innocents are also killed.....doctrine.

We must also look at ourselves too. Our own prejudices and our own "adding" to the problem. Without this honest look at ourselves, we have no hope of offering anything towards peace.

Interesting view in the Times and I agree with this article........again it states how Israel/America lose by continuing their military efforts and not addressing the reasons, Muslims are radicalized. The U.S. and Israel are just planting more "bombs"...

[Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee]

There is one force that can get deal with of the radical groups in the mideast.

Mideast governments and their security services.

And if mideast regimes and elties they didn't incite violence and teach hate - well their would be far less violence.

The answer is as simple as that.

[igotthisguitar]

[Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee]

Israel doesn't act worse than other nations at war. and they would like to make peace. They have relations w/ Egypt & Jordan and Turkey. They used to have good relations with the Shah.

Arab Israelis are members of Israel''s government .

What are conditions like for Arab Jews? Oh I forgot they are all gone.