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Julius

Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 12:44 am Post subject: "My hot Girlfriend/wife is from Thailand/laos" etc |
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Seriously..most guys have been to SE Asia and the Phillipines nowadays..do you really expect us to believe that doll beside you appreciates you for you?
I was in Vietnam and Thailand 4 weeks ago. I actually donated money to a woman's charity because I felt sorry for the poverty-stricken women forced to sell themselves to ugly foreigners. I was quite surprised at how many westerners (inclluding 2 ESL teachers based in korea) quite happily paid a few bucks to a 3rd world teenager to make them feel like a man. Presumably the AIDS test cost more afterwards?
I happened to see a dude with one a few weeks back, here in korea. If you really loved her why not give her some money to improve her life of misery, walk away and find a real woman that is more likely to be with you for reasons other than your passport/ finances?
Any thoughts on this, people?
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 1:02 am Post subject: Re: "My hot Girlfriend/wife is from Thailand/laos" |
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What you said.
A friend of mine was dating a stewardess with Korean Air. She spent some time in Thailand, where she went for a (non-sleazy) massage. She left a five-dollar tip, and the masseuse followed her all the way back to the hotel, like a lost puppy. |
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JongnoGuru

Joined: 25 May 2004 Location: peeing on your doorstep
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 1:22 am Post subject: Re: "My hot Girlfriend/wife is from Thailand/laos" |
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RACETRAITOR wrote: |
A friend of mine was dating a stewardess with Korean Air. |
And does he really expect us to believe that KAL stewardess appreciates him for him?
Indeed, it wasn't all that long ago when most Korean observers (and quite a few Western ones) would make the very same "finance/passport" assumptions about Korean girls who were with (dating, married to) Western guys. That might sound incredible if you haven't been here long. But if you've been here during some of the steeper economic dips this country has taken, you'll know what I mean. |
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Snowmeow

Joined: 03 Oct 2005 Location: pc room
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 1:34 am Post subject: |
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Well, even when women from SE Asia marry men from their own country do they do it because they love each other? From her perspective it many not be any different from marrying a foreigner.
Regarding marriage in Laos:
"The usual means for a marriage to be negotiated is for an engagement to be arranged by the parents of the man and woman through the use of "go-betweens"
(source: http://www.hmongcenter.org)
Most of the marriages that I have seen of people that love each other have turned ugly within 5 years so I have no more confidence in those than I do of a pickup and marriage of a girl from SE Asia. |
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RACETRAITOR
Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 1:37 am Post subject: Re: "My hot Girlfriend/wife is from Thailand/laos" |
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JongnoGuru wrote: |
And does he really expect us to believe that KAL stewardess appreciates him for him?
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That's kind of an ass-headed thing to say. |
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ThePoet
Joined: 15 May 2004 Location: No longer in Korea - just lurking here
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 1:51 am Post subject: |
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Give someone a fish, you feed them for a day...teach someone to fish, you feed them for a lifetime.
It might ease your conscience to throw some money to a shelter or some woman and not expect anything in return, and thats cool...but don't judge other men who meet a woman from these poorer countries and decides its love and then provide their passport and the advantages of their own country to offer the woman a better life.
I am not talking about mongerers who pay for sex and then laugh about their conquests. I'm not into that, but I try not to judge them.
I am talking about people like myself who meet someone in a less fortunate country and things seem to click as well as or better than with someone from my home country. I am hoping my girl will come to be with me here. For me it is love and I am hoping it is the same for her. She says it is. But if she is simply saying that for my passport/finances, then I will have done more for improving her life in the long run than simply throw some baubles to a shelter. She'll have more opportunities with me than without me. However, maybe it will last a lifetime.
My previous marriage was to someone from a similar country and that was a disaster and it WASNT for the passport/finances. The country, ethnicity, race, or even financial inequality should not matter as long as you hope you will have a good life together.
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Julius

Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 1:51 am Post subject: |
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[quote="Snowmeow"]
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Well, even when women from SE Asia marry men from their own country do they do it because they love each other? |
But you're a westerner not an Asian.
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Most of the marriages that I have seen of people that love each other have turned ugly within 5 years |
Better an honest split, than a married life based on how much cash you can donate. A mail order/ rescue from poverty bride is far more likely to cheat on you than a westerner wouldn't you say?
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so I have no more confidence in those than I do of a pickup and marriage of a girl from SE Asia. |
You have more long term confidence in a practical stranger you bought for her good looks?
(this is not directed at you personally, just for arguments sake). |
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:23 am Post subject: |
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I've said this before, but i will say it again.
I met a massive loser in Japan (Western guy). He couldn't speak any Japanese, he would actually order everything in English, even in the smaller town we lived in. He was married to a hot Japanese girl who couldn't speak English any more than your average Korean who was taught it in highschool. (I chatted with her for awhile in Japanese, the looks the guy gave me were hilarious, though I am a fairly muscular guy so wasn't worried). They had two children together, who both spoke only Japanese and couldn't speak English (they were about 6 and .
I think this is the kind of guy the OP was talking about, but as you can see, it happens in first world countries too.  |
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JongnoGuru

Joined: 25 May 2004 Location: peeing on your doorstep
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:36 am Post subject: |
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I'm sorry for that, RACE. I didn't mean for that comment to be taken personally or seriously. My misjudgment, and a bad one.
Now then, I have several friends who are married to women from the countries the OP mentions, and in one or two instances the women could be fairly described as economic hard-luck cases or simply very poor by Western standards when they met their husbands-to-be. Much like the majority of the population there, I suppose. In the other cases, no, the women gained nothing (passport or riches) by marrying my friends that they didn't already have.
Of course the OP isn't talking about people like my friends or their wives. But the wording of the thread title and the opening line could perhaps go a bit further to indicate the distinction.
Like I said in my first post, this is the same attitude that was adopted almost universally by Koreans (and by many Westerners, too) towards _any_ Korean woman who dated or married a Western man until fairly recently. (I could have said that without seeming to insult your friend, RACETRAITOR. My apologies.)
laogaiguk wrote: |
They had two children together, who both spoke only Japanese and couldn't speak English (they were about 6 and . |
What? They were six years old and really cool? |
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baldrick

Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: Location, Location
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:09 am Post subject: |
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Well I'm marrying my Vietnamese gf in 2 months and I'm quite pleased about it.... I'm 26 and shes 22. Is that OK everybody? |
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Julius

Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:21 am Post subject: |
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ThePoet wrote: |
I am talking about people like myself who meet someone in a less fortunate country and things seem to click |
Like a bankcard into a cash dispenser?
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Well I'm marrying my Vietnamese gf in 2 months and I'm quite pleased about it |
You could get a stunning hottie for $10 in ho chi minh. She'd probably marry you after a few weeks if she sensed you have a good cash supply.
The test is, would you be able to go as far so quickly with a western woman or a Korean? because climbing out of poverty isnt an issue with them. Just your personality.
Would either of them be into you if you didn't wave the passport in their face?  |
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baldrick

Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: Location, Location
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:24 am Post subject: |
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Julius wrote: |
ThePoet wrote: |
I am talking about people like myself who meet someone in a less fortunate country and things seem to click |
Like a bankcard into a cash dispenser?
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Well I'm marrying my Vietnamese gf in 2 months and I'm quite pleased about it |
You could get a stunning hottie for $10 in ho chi minh. She'd probably marry you after a few weeks if she sensed you have a good cash supply.
The test is, would you be able to go as far so quickly with a western woman or a Korean? because climbing out of poverty isnt an issue with them. Just your personality.
Would either of them be into you if you didn't wave the passport in their face?  |
Whatever! I'm happy in the knowledge that we are the most genuine couple in all of the land! How long were you in Vietnam? |
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Julius

Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:26 am Post subject: |
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baldrick wrote: |
Whatever! I'm happy in the knowledge that we are the most genuine couple in all of the land! How long were you in Vietnam? |
Long enough to know what was what over there , hahaha |
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baldrick

Joined: 03 Feb 2004 Location: Location, Location
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:30 am Post subject: |
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Julius wrote: |
baldrick wrote: |
Whatever! I'm happy in the knowledge that we are the most genuine couple in all of the land! How long were you in Vietnam? |
Long enough to know what was what over there , hahaha |
So a few days on Pham Ngu Lao? Good for you brother!
I want to add: if living and working in Vietnam and in the process meeting a very special person is a crime, then shoot me.
I should start a thread - "My ugly wife is from the US/UK/Canada - what's your excuse?"
So, Julius, you married? You want to pick holes in other peoples lives, that works both ways mate. Tell me where your other half is from and I'll respond based on my complete lack of knowledge of your situation. Would that be annoying? |
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Wed Aug 09, 2006 4:03 am Post subject: |
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JongnoGuru wrote: |
I'm sorry for that, RACE. I didn't mean for that comment to be taken personally or seriously. My misjudgment, and a bad one.
Now then, I have several friends who are married to women from the countries the OP mentions, and in one or two instances the women could be fairly described as economic hard-luck cases or simply very poor by Western standards when they met their husbands-to-be. Much like the majority of the population there, I suppose. In the other cases, no, the women gained nothing (passport or riches) by marrying my friends that they didn't already have.
Of course the OP isn't talking about people like my friends or their wives. But the wording of the thread title and the opening line could perhaps go a bit further to indicate the distinction.
Like I said in my first post, this is the same attitude that was adopted almost universally by Koreans (and by many Westerners, too) towards _any_ Korean woman who dated or married a Western man until fairly recently. (I could have said that without seeming to insult your friend, RACETRAITOR. My apologies.)
laogaiguk wrote: |
They had two children together, who both spoke only Japanese and couldn't speak English (they were about 6 and 8). |
What? They were six years old and really cool? |
Should be "8)", I'll disable bbcSmilies in this post to get the point across ;) |
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